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Old 05-21-04, 01:40 PM
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Petacchi only in 86th

If Petacchi has won 6 of the 12 Giro stages how is he in only 86th place?
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Old 05-21-04, 01:46 PM
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He is a sprinter extraordinaire, not a guy who can easily make it over the climbs. He has lost too much time when the roads turn up and end at the top of a mountain. Most of his time lose would probably have come and stage 3 when gibo won and stage 10 (?) when cunego took the maglia rosa.
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Yeah, he lost 15:00 in stage 7 and 16:50 in stage 11. Even with the :20 time bonus for winning each stage, he is well down in the overall.
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Old 05-21-04, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by lennyparis
If Petacchi has won 6 of the 12 Giro stages how is he in only 86th place?
On most of those stage wins, about 100 other riders finished with the same time.
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Old 05-21-04, 04:24 PM
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He's also not concerned about his position on the overall. He's a pure sprinter and there to win stages with his sprint, which he's done very effectively.
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It's part if different strategies by different teams. Only a handful of teams have a rider with a realistic chance at a high general classification, aka gc, in other words the overall. Other teams have sprinters who have a chance of winning one or more stages to gain publicity. A sprinter's job is to win stages when he can, otherwise he rides to conserve as much energy as possible, which means on climbing stages many sprinters ride just hard enough to meet the time limits. Some of the sprinters don't finish a grand tour. Cipo is notorious for this, and McEwen does it sometimes as well. Some criticize them for this, but it is their job. By dropping out they conserve resources to hopefully win stages in the TDF, perhaps even the Vuelta. THAT is their job. Their teams would rather they win stages in two tours than wipe themselves out finishing one.

Then there are riders that are time trial specialists, climbing specialists, etc. Julio Perez, for example on Panaria stays completely incognito until the big mountains when he tries to hopefully win one stage. Last year the team made the mistake of having him concentrate on gc. Not only was that a miserable failure, but the change in training reduced his effectiveness on the climbs. He might as well have stayed home.

Anyway, the point is that there are different strategies, and gc is almost irrelevant to a number of the specialists.
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Petta just got his 8th stage victory.

By the way, he was sprinting the other day in a 53x11 at 110 RPM. 42 MPH. That's amazing.
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