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Caad-9 or Cervelo S1 frames set

Old 04-10-09, 10:02 AM
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Caad-9 or Cervelo S1 frames set

OK everyone, I apologize if this has already been posted but I want to hear from people that have experience with both frames. Which do you like better (as a race bike of course) Caad9 or S1...and why?
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Old 04-10-09, 10:04 AM
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that's a very subjective question

and i'm sure you'll find something close to a 50/50 split.

My vote is for CAAD9. Because I own one.
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Old 04-10-09, 10:11 AM
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Is this a joke?

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CAAD9, spend the difference on wheels.

CAAD9 5-$1299, Easton EC90SLX-$839>>>>>>stock Cervelo S1
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Old 04-10-09, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by MONGO! View Post
CAAD9, spend the difference on wheels.

CAAD9 5-$1299, Easton EC90SLX-$839>>>>>>stock Cervelo S1
this is the difference-maker in my mind. You can just about buy a set of Williams 38s/58s with that money.
You can buy 2 sets of Soul 4.0s for that money...
105 is just as good for all us mortals as Ultegra, and for 850 you can buy race wheels, or a PT, or fill an entire duffel with shoes+bibs+jersey+sunglasses+helmet+other junk.

The S1 is good, maybe even better (opinions will vary, they are both very good) but not that much better.
Even if the S1 frame is faster, it isn't faster than the CAAD with trick new race wheels.
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When you figure it out let me know because I'm having a hard of a time.
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Unless you're a tri-geek that cares about bits of aero-ness, frame to frame the CAAD9 is more bang for buck. Like others have said, the extra cash can go to gear that will make a difference (re: wheels).

On the other hand, if you're buying a full bike, it's hard to find a stock CAAD9 with higher-end components these days... and building one up might not be a better deal than a stock S1 with Ultegra or something.
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Old 04-10-09, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by RudeSiggy View Post
Unless you're a tri-geek that cares about bits of aero-ness, frame to frame the CAAD9 is more bang for buck. Like others have said, the extra cash can go to gear that will make a difference (re: wheels).

On the other hand, if you're buying a full bike, it's hard to find a stock CAAD9 with higher-end components these days... and building one up might not be a better deal than a stock S1 with Ultegra or something.
Yah but the S1 ultegra has crap cranks, brakes and wheels so I don't know how great of a deal it is either.

I'm really starting to think that if it fits:

CAAD9 from my LBS
DA7900 from PBK
Easton EC90 AERO online
Then Easton stem, bars, and seat post.

That'd be hot.
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Old 04-10-09, 04:08 PM
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With the money I'm "saving" from the Caad 9 5 deal, I've already ordered my PTap Pro+ & I'm swapping out the 105 for Rival. I don't need bling, I need stuff that helps me become a better racer.
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Old 04-10-09, 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by fauxto nick View Post
Yah but the S1 ultegra has crap cranks, brakes and wheels so I don't know how great of a deal it is either.

I'm really starting to think that if it fits:

CAAD9 from my LBS
DA7900 from PBK
Easton EC90 AERO online
Then Easton stem, bars, and seat post.

That'd be hot.
even better:

S1 frame from PBK
SRAM Rival group from eBay
Williams 58 powertap set
3T bars and stem from PBK

and still have money left over for some williams 58 tubulars
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I don't know what the hard on with 3T? I'm getting a cervelo and I don't plan on building it up with 3T even, Easton baby cheap, light and local.
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Old 04-11-09, 12:40 AM
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so i guess you made up your mind^
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so i guess you made up your mind^
hahaha wow, i didn't even realized i said that . Either way I'm going with Easton, I compared the easton ea90 stem to the 3t stem equipped on the s1 and it's lighter and cheaper, same with the EA70 bars compared to the 3t bars on the S1. If I get a caad9 though i don't think that frame set comes with a seat post though... ec90 ftw?
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Originally Posted by fauxto nick View Post
hahaha wow, i didn't even realized i said that . Either way I'm going with Easton, I compared the easton ea90 stem to the 3t stem equipped on the s1 and it's lighter and cheaper, same with the EA70 bars compared to the 3t bars on the S1. If I get a caad9 though i don't think that frame set comes with a seat post though... ec90 ftw?
easton seatposts arethe ugliest thing they make. even if your sold on easton for the other stuff, I'd go thomson, kcnc, or something for seatpost.
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Old 04-11-09, 10:57 AM
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easton seatposts arethe ugliest thing they make. even if your sold on easton for the other stuff, I'd go thomson, kcnc, or something for seatpost.
I bet to differ?

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meh...

not my bike though.
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Originally Posted by fauxto nick View Post
hahaha wow, i didn't even realized i said that . Either way I'm going with Easton, I compared the easton ea90 stem to the 3t stem equipped on the s1 and it's lighter and cheaper, same with the EA70 bars compared to the 3t bars on the S1. If I get a caad9 though i don't think that frame set comes with a seat post though... ec90 ftw?
Easton EA70 stem-125g $81
3t ARX team-120g $65

Easton EA70 bars-260g $50
3T Ergosum alloy-220g $60

Plus the 3T stem has that cool 3T cutout that shows the painted part underneath

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both are good choices...get the C9...
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Originally Posted by MONGO! View Post
Easton EA70 stem-125g $81
3t ARX team-120g $65

Easton EA70 bars-260g $50
3T Ergosum alloy-220g $60

Plus the 3T stem has that cool 3T cutout that shows the painted part underneath
S1 comes with the Ergonova bars NOT the Ergosum bars, at CC they're $90 at 277g. It also comes with the ARX pro stem which you're right is cheaper but CC says it weighs 136. I'm going by CC prices what're you going by?
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I went again today and checked out both bikes, I'm test riding them two Wednesdays from now, if they both ride the same I'm going to have to go with a white Caad9 and save my money.

It's just not worth it. Sure Cervelo is sweet bling, but I can't afford roughly $400 for a cool logo on the side of my bike. If the S1 is stiffer and accelerates better though... that's a different case, I'm not exactly sure I'm sold on the aerodynamics jive.
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Originally Posted by fauxto nick View Post
S1 comes with the Ergonova bars NOT the Ergosum bars, at CC they're $90 at 277g. It also comes with the ARX pro stem which you're right is cheaper but CC says it weighs 136. I'm going by CC prices what're you going by?
Google.

The Ergonova are a little bigger than the compact Ergosum but I have a dislike for "ergo" bars.

I just mounted the ARX Team stem and Ergosum on my bike and they feel great.

Originally Posted by fauxto nick View Post

It's just not worth it. Sure Cervelo is sweet bling, but I can't afford roughly $400 for a cool logo on the side of my bike. If the S1 is stiffer and accelerates better though... that's a different case, I'm not exactly sure I'm sold on the aerodynamics jive.
The one I rode was stiff but not in a good way, I really wanted to like it but I ended up buying a Felt.

Also the friggin' noise of the internal cables clanking around drove me nuts!
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Originally Posted by MONGO! View Post
Google.





The one I rode was stiff but not in a good way, I really wanted to like it but I ended up buying a Felt.

Also the friggin' noise of the internal cables clanking around drove me nuts!
I can put up with the internal cable routing clanking, partly because I just don't care and partly because I ride with music 85% of the time.

Can you elaborate on the stiffness issue also?
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The Soul 4.0's you can buy with the money you save by buying the Caad9 will make the CAAD9 more aero than the S1 for the same price.

Some dude I was racing with in the 3/4 at bethel told me that my 9 was the perfect crit bike.

CAAD9, SRM amateur, Soul 4.0's, masterpiece seatpost, SLR saddle, etc. I think I'm going to swap saddle/post soon just to see if I like my titanio saddle more.

Nothing on there except the SRM is going to be a huge loss in the event of a bust.
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Well for me it will all come down to which test rides better it should be a fair comparison a caad9 with 105 vs a s1 with ultegra but a cheap fsa crank. Whatever is snappier and handles better is going to take the win. The money saved will just go into my savings not more gear, I'm not buying wheels and grouppo untill my show comes out of hiatus and I know I have work next season, so the money saved isn't overly crucial as weird as that sounds.
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