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How does Alberto Contador destroy people in the TT??

Old 04-11-09, 02:57 PM
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How does Alberto Contador destroy people in the TT??

He's the super ultimate climber.. or is he the ultimate time trialist?? he beats big beefy time trial specialists at the only thing they are good at! wth. any other riders in history who can do both types of riding so well?
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Grand tour winners are historically good at both. You don't have to look very far.
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Lance, Ullrich, Kloedi just to name some contemporary cyclists.
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The one thing that impressed me the most in last year's TdF was not the Alpe d'Huez win, it was most definitely Sastre's performance in the final time trial. I still watch it for inspiration.
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Originally Posted by deadly downtube View Post
He's the super ultimate climber.. or is he the ultimate time trialist?? he beats big beefy time trial specialists at the only thing they are good at! wth. any other riders in history who can do both types of riding so well?
Yes.

Anyone who has ever won a Grand Tour.

Crazy, I know.
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he trains a lot...
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Originally Posted by Grumpy McTrumpy View Post
The one thing that impressed me the most in last year's TdF was not the Alpe d'Huez win, it was most definitely Sastre's performance in the final time trial. I still watch it for inspiration.
Most of those guys can TT quite well when there is something, such as the TdF lead, on the line.
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i'm just amazed he is the best climber and the best time trialist.. ullrichs climbing did not match his great TT ability.. and kloedin is great but not the best..
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He's up there.
Leipheimer's better.
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forgive me if ignorant.

When has Contador actually placed first in a major TT? Seemed like he was good enough at the TT to keep overall lead, but not necessarily to beat the best TT specialists.
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Also the team leaders are usually protected from doing most of the work during the stages and is fresher than the domestiques.
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Originally Posted by Grumpy McTrumpy View Post
forgive me if ignorant.

When has Contador actually placed first in a major TT? Seemed like he was good enough at the TT to keep overall lead, but not necessarily to beat the best TT specialists.
I believe he won the opening time trial of Paris-Nice this year.
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I believe he won the opening time trial of Paris-Nice this year.
word. stomped bradley wiggins in an event under 10k. i'm suspicious.
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so prologues count then?
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so prologues count then?
a prologue is a time trial.. it's even weirder that he can get 1st place on a flat short (10k) time trial against uber beefcakes.. but check out vuelta pais vasco which he just won.. won the final time trial today, destroyed almost everyone by a minute i think.. the only cyclist with this kind of ability was lance in my really newb cycling memory (i dont know anything about the oldies). lance was posessed with a body snatching alien and now it has moved on to alberto??
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If you're trying to say that Contador is an amazing cyclist, I agree!
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Originally Posted by deadly downtube View Post
a prologue is a time trial.. it's even weirder that he can get 1st place on a flat short (10k) time trial against uber beefcakes.. but check out vuelta pais vasco which he just won.. won the final time trial today, destroyed almost everyone by a minute i think.. the only cyclist with this kind of ability was lance in my really newb cycling memory (i dont know anything about the oldies). lance was posessed with a body snatching alien and now it has moved on to alberto??
He's the best all around cyclist in the world, racing against a bunch of guys (Basques) who are known as pure climbers, and would, I think, readily admit to being sub-par TTers.

Seriously, you must not watch cycling that often, or race.

Musculature, aside from the track sprinters, isn't that great of indicator of speed.

Bradley Wiggins is pretty f-ing skinny, and he's the best pursuiter in the world. I'm a bit bulkier than some people I know, but crush them going uphill.
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Originally Posted by dmb2786 View Post
word. stomped bradley wiggins in an event under 10k. i'm suspicious.
When was the last time wiggins had a result off of the boards?

keep in mind that many of the top road racers could be the top track cyclists if they wanted to.
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TT's are about watts/CdA. Little guys like Contador, Leipheimer, and even Zabriskie can do well because they have very little drag. You don't need nearly as much power when your CdA is <.19m^2 and guys like Cancellara or Armstrong are in the .23+ range.
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Originally Posted by esammuli View Post
TT's are about watts/CdA. Little guys like Contador, Leipheimer, and even Zabriskie can do well because they have very little drag. You don't need nearly as much power when your CdA is <.19m^2 and guys like Cancellara or Armstrong are in the .23+ range.
+1 to this.
Size and Position are really the factors in a TT (and suffering, but i digress)
Contador has a small size (thus needing less power) and he has spent a lot of time improving his aero position. The figure I have heard tossed about is that more than 85% of all drag relating to cycling is from the human on the bicycle, not the bicycle. Since Contador already has the size, his continual improvement of position makes his co-effic of drag look better every year.

Improving position changes things more quickly and more significantly than any non-standard bit on a TT bike. Several pros that have steadily improved their TT results over the years directly point to spending more time on their TT bikes and working on their positions.
(where's the doc J when he's needed?)
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