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Old 04-12-09, 06:18 PM
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Downloaded first data, anyone analyze?

Got my Powertap to be recognized by the software and downloaded my ride from today. Was wondering if anyone would be willing to look at the file and tell me what some of the numbers mean. Either I could e-mail it to you, .cvs file, or tell me how to post it here so you can see the data.
Thanks alot, I am just trying to get the basic idea of what I am looking at and what I am looking for.
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You can email me the file, I'll take a look
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I'll post some analysis shortly but here is the summary. Looks like you've got a pretty wicked sprint in that second file...



Code:
Entire workout (138 watts):
	Duration:  	1:29:11
	Work:      	740 kJ
	Norm Power:	211
	VI:        	1.53
	Pw:HR:      	7.14%
	Pa:HR:      	-1.7%
	Distance:  	25.318 mi
		Min	Max	Avg
	Power:       	0	617	138 	watts
	Heart Rate:  	0	156	114 	bpm
	Cadence:     	1	104	71 	rpm
	Speed:       	0	34.2	17.0 	mph
	Pace         	1:45	0:00	3:32 	min/mi
	Hub Torque:  	0	340	58 	lb-in
	Crank Torque:	0	1693	169 	lb-in

Peak 5s (587 watts):
	Duration:  	0:05
	Work:      	3 kJ
	Pw:HR:      	2.15%
	Pa:HR:      	0.15%
	Distance:  	144 ft
		Min	Max	Avg
	Power:       	577	605	587 	watts
	Heart Rate:  	147	149	148 	bpm
	Cadence:     	88	89	88 	rpm
	Speed:       	19.1	19.4	19.2 	mph
	Pace         	3:06	3:09	3:07 	min/mi
	Hub Torque:  	198	207	202 	lb-in
	Crank Torque:	551	574	561 	lb-in

Peak 10s (571 watts):
	Duration:  	0:10
	Work:      	6 kJ
	Pw:HR:      	3.83%
	Pa:HR:      	1.69%
	Distance:  	282 ft
		Min	Max	Avg
	Power:       	509	605	571 	watts
	Heart Rate:  	147	149	148 	bpm
	Cadence:     	85	89	88 	rpm
	Speed:       	18.5	19.4	19.1 	mph
	Pace         	3:06	3:15	3:09 	min/mi
	Hub Torque:  	177	211	198 	lb-in
	Crank Torque:	494	585	550 	lb-in

Peak 20s (550 watts):
	Duration:  	0:20
	Work:      	11 kJ
	Pw:HR:      	2.47%
	Pa:HR:      	2.75%
	Distance:  	554 ft
		Min	Max	Avg
	Power:       	471	605	550 	watts
	Heart Rate:  	147	149	148 	bpm
	Cadence:     	85	89	88 	rpm
	Speed:       	18.5	19.6	19.1 	mph
	Pace         	3:04	3:15	3:09 	min/mi
	Hub Torque:  	165	211	190 	lb-in
	Crank Torque:	458	585	531 	lb-in

Peak 30s (533 watts):
	Duration:  	0:30
	Work:      	16 kJ

	Pw:HR:      	3.98%
	Pa:HR:      	12.19%
	Distance:  	545 ft
		Min	Max	Avg
	Power:       	434	617	533 	watts
	Heart Rate:  	141	153	147 	bpm
	Cadence:     	68	82	77 	rpm
	Speed:       	10.9	13	12.2 	mph
	Pace         	4:36	5:29	4:55 	min/mi
	Hub Torque:  	243	340	289 	lb-in
	Crank Torque:	495	705	590 	lb-in

Peak 1min (434 watts):
	Duration:  	1:00
	Work:      	26 kJ
	Pw:HR:      	-48.82%
	Pa:HR:      	22.45%
	Distance:  	0.226 mi
		Min	Max	Avg
	Power:       	210	617	434 	watts
	Heart Rate:  	136	154	143 	bpm
	Cadence:     	68	95	82 	rpm
	Speed:       	10.9	17.1	13.4 	mph
	Pace         	3:30	5:29	4:28 	min/mi
	Hub Torque:  	84	340	223 	lb-in
	Crank Torque:	193	705	460 	lb-in

Peak 2min (359 watts):
	Duration:  	2:01
	Work:      	43 kJ
	Pw:HR:      	27%
	Pa:HR:      	-2.62%
	Distance:  	0.684 mi
		Min	Max	Avg
	Power:       	215	605	359 	watts
	Heart Rate:  	141	152	148 	bpm
	Cadence:     	85	100	93 	rpm
	Speed:       	18.5	21.8	20.4 	mph
	Pace         	2:45	3:15	2:57 	min/mi
	Hub Torque:  	72	211	118 	lb-in
	Crank Torque:	202	585	329 	lb-in

Peak 5min (327 watts):
	Duration:  	5:01
	Work:      	98 kJ
	Norm Power:	361
	VI:        	1.11
	Pw:HR:      	9.15%
	Pa:HR:      	20.24%
	Distance:  	1.585 mi
		Min	Max	Avg
	Power:       	0	617	327 	watts
	Heart Rate:  	123	154	144 	bpm
	Cadence:     	21	100	87 	rpm
	Speed:       	10.9	23.5	18.9 	mph
	Pace         	2:33	5:29	3:10 	min/mi
	Hub Torque:  	0	340	123 	lb-in
	Crank Torque:	0	1231	326 	lb-in

Peak 10min (247 watts):
	Duration:  	10:01
	Work:      	149 kJ
	Norm Power:	308
	VI:        	1.25
	Pw:HR:      	-55.43%
	Pa:HR:      	22.51%
	Distance:  	3.203 mi
		Min	Max	Avg
	Power:       	0	617	247 	watts
	Heart Rate:  	93	154	129 	bpm
	Cadence:     	14	100	83 	rpm
	Speed:       	10.9	24.9	19.1 	mph
	Pace         	2:25	5:29	3:08 	min/mi
	Hub Torque:  	0	340	90 	lb-in
	Crank Torque:	0	1231	253 	lb-in

Peak 20min (196 watts):
	Duration:  	20:01
	Work:      	235 kJ
	Norm Power:	266
	VI:        	1.36
	Pw:HR:      	-50.65%
	Pa:HR:      	-3.77%
	Distance:  	5.913 mi
		Min	Max	Avg
	Power:       	0	617	196 	watts
	Heart Rate:  	89	154	121 	bpm
	Cadence:     	2	100	78 	rpm
	Speed:       	7.8	27.1	17.7 	mph
	Pace         	2:13	7:40	3:24 	min/mi
	Hub Torque:  	0	340	78 	lb-in
	Crank Torque:	0	1484	214 	lb-in


Code:
Entire workout (177 watts):
	Duration:  	1:34:53
	Work:      	1006 kJ
	Norm Power:	261
	VI:        	1.48
	Pw:HR:      	-0.11%
	Pa:HR:      	-4.87%
	Distance:  	22.543 mi
		Min	Max	Avg
	Power:       	0	1373	177 	watts
	Heart Rate:  	82	191	127 	bpm
	Cadence:     	2	111	71 	rpm
	Speed:       	0	31.7	14.2 	mph
	Pace         	1:54	0:00	4:13 	min/mi
	Hub Torque:  	0	368	85 	lb-in
	Crank Torque:	0	1739	215 	lb-in

Peak 5s (1297 watts):
	Duration:  	0:05
	Work:      	6 kJ
	Pw:HR:      	-2.93%
	Pa:HR:      	-8.73%
	Distance:  	200 ft
		Min	Max	Avg
	Power:       	1226	1373	1297 	watts
	Heart Rate:  	161	166	164 	bpm
	Cadence:     	84	99	92 	rpm
	Speed:       	24.6	28.9	26.8 	mph
	Pace         	2:05	2:26	2:14 	min/mi
	Hub Torque:  	296	329	320 	lb-in
	Crank Torque:	1105	1233	1196 	lb-in

Peak 10s (1257 watts):
	Duration:  	0:10
	Work:      	13 kJ
	Pw:HR:      	9.13%
	Pa:HR:      	-12.08%
	Distance:  	404 ft
		Min	Max	Avg
	Power:       	1155	1373	1257 	watts
	Heart Rate:  	161	172	166 	bpm
	Cadence:     	81	103	95 	rpm
	Speed:       	22.9	30.5	27.7 	mph
	Pace         	1:58	2:37	2:10 	min/mi
	Hub Torque:  	250	368	303 	lb-in
	Crank Torque:	947	1329	1131 	lb-in

Peak 20s (1139 watts):
	Duration:  	0:20
	Work:      	23 kJ
	Pw:HR:      	25.54%
	Pa:HR:      	-3.08%
	Distance:  	866 ft
		Min	Max	Avg
	Power:       	874	1373	1139 	watts
	Heart Rate:  	161	187	173 	bpm
	Cadence:     	81	108	100 	rpm
	Speed:       	22.9	31.7	29.4 	mph
	Pace         	1:54	2:37	2:02 	min/mi
	Hub Torque:  	186	368	260 	lb-in
	Crank Torque:	710	1329	976 	lb-in

Peak 30s (871 watts):
	Duration:  	0:30
	Work:      	26 kJ
	Pw:HR:      	-16.84%
	Pa:HR:      	-14.55%
	Distance:  	0.231 mi
		Min	Max	Avg
	Power:       	155	1373	871 	watts
	Heart Rate:  	158	190	171 	bpm
	Cadence:     	74	108	94 	rpm
	Speed:       	21.4	31.7	27.4 	mph
	Pace         	1:54	2:48	2:11 	min/mi
	Hub Torque:  	47	368	204 	lb-in
	Crank Torque:	149	1329	766 	lb-in

Peak 1min (593 watts):
	Duration:  	1:00
	Work:      	36 kJ
	Pw:HR:      	-150.02%
	Pa:HR:      	-29.77%
	Distance:  	0.385 mi
		Min	Max	Avg
	Power:       	155	1373	593 	watts
	Heart Rate:  	151	189	162 	bpm
	Cadence:     	73	108	86 	rpm
	Speed:       	17.8	31.7	23.1 	mph
	Pace         	1:54	3:22	2:36 	min/mi
	Hub Torque:  	48	368	158 	lb-in
	Crank Torque:	149	1329	556 	lb-in

Peak 2min (387 watts):
	Duration:  	2:00
	Work:      	46 kJ
	Pw:HR:      	-209.93%
	Pa:HR:      	-28.8%
	Distance:  	0.672 mi
		Min	Max	Avg
	Power:       	0	1373	387 	watts
	Heart Rate:  	150	190	158 	bpm
	Cadence:     	20	108	82 	rpm
	Speed:       	13	31.7	20.2 	mph
	Pace         	1:54	4:37	2:59 	min/mi
	Hub Torque:  	0	368	114 	lb-in
	Crank Torque:	0	1329	376 	lb-in

Peak 5min (314 watts):
	Duration:  	5:00
	Work:      	94 kJ
	Norm Power:	394
	VI:        	1.25
	Pw:HR:      	-35.23%
	Pa:HR:      	-1.33%
	Distance:  	1.578 mi
		Min	Max	Avg
	Power:       	0	1373	314 	watts
	Heart Rate:  	144	190	154 	bpm
	Cadence:     	20	108	80 	rpm
	Speed:       	13	31.7	19.0 	mph
	Pace         	1:54	4:37	3:10 	min/mi
	Hub Torque:  	0	368	105 	lb-in
	Crank Torque:	0	1329	321 	lb-in

Peak 10min (266 watts):
	Duration:  	10:00
	Work:      	160 kJ
	Norm Power:	347
	VI:        	1.31
	Pw:HR:      	-32.33%
	Pa:HR:      	6.93%
	Distance:  	3.139 mi
		Min	Max	Avg
	Power:       	0	1373	266 	watts
	Heart Rate:  	116	190	148 	bpm
	Cadence:     	8	108	78 	rpm
	Speed:       	12.3	31.7	18.8 	mph
	Pace         	1:54	4:53	3:11 	min/mi
	Hub Torque:  	0	368	92 	lb-in
	Crank Torque:	0	1329	286 	lb-in

Peak 20min (218 watts):
	Duration:  	20:01
	Work:      	262 kJ
	Norm Power:	263
	VI:        	1.2
	Pw:HR:      	21.28%
	Pa:HR:      	-4.43%
	Distance:  	4.279 mi
		Min	Max	Avg
	Power:       	0	543	218 	watts
	Heart Rate:  	93	150	132 	bpm
	Cadence:     	5	82	68 	rpm
	Speed:       	5.3	18.9	12.8 	mph
	Pace         	3:11	11:22	4:41 	min/mi
	Hub Torque:  	0	354	117 	lb-in
	Crank Torque:	0	928	274 	lb-in
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Almost 1300W for 5" power. Not too shabby.
Now it all depends on your weight to determine your W/kg to find out where you stand.
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I'll post some analysis shortly but here is the summary. Looks like you've got a pretty wicked sprint in that second file...

Thanks for the analysis! It sure looks like a lot of confusing data. I just wonder how I can reach a max heart rate of 191 when my theoretical max is 174 based on my age. I wonder what that means?

The sprint was up a slight incline which fits my power curve I think, I went pretty hard but I think I can do higher numbers with a full on effort. Of course with my weight I still suck at watts per kg. Oh well, maybe I can find a downhill road race!
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Originally Posted by Scummer View Post
Almost 1300W for 5" power. Not too shabby.
Now it all depends on your weight to determine your W/kg to find out where you stand.
It sucks, I stand alone! I would have to lose 40 pounds just to be an ok rider, and that aint never gonna happen. I'll just have to race smarter than the other guys, although I really am the leadout man on our team. Now if I can just get to the front in the last 500 meters I might do something.
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Read the book Training and Racing with a Power Meter, Hunter Allen and Andrew Coggan. It will answer a lot of the initial questions.
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Read the book Training and Racing with a Power Meter, Hunter Allen and Andrew Coggan. It will answer a lot of the initial questions.
On my list to buy, thanks!
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Thanks for the analysis! It sure looks like a lot of confusing data. I just wonder how I can reach a max heart rate of 191 when my theoretical max is 174 based on my age. I wonder what that means?
Have you heard the line... "the difference between theory and practice, is that in theory there is no difference?"

The whole 220-age thing is complete BS, or more accurately it is completely misunderstood and misapplied, at best.
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And since you have powermeter, I'd invest the 99$ into WKO for windows or get Golden Cheetah for OS X/Linux.
It's so much either to track your progress.
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Chuck check your facebook wall I posted some stuff last night. If you want to talk give me a call today and we can go over some stuff
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It sure looks like a lot of confusing data. I just wonder how I can reach a max heart rate of 191 when my theoretical max is 174 based on my age. I wonder what that means?
220-age is useless for individuals. I'm 48 and not particularly fast, and I can hit 192. I can average my "theoretical max" for half an hour.

Nice 5 second power.

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220-age is useless for individuals. I'm 48 and not particularly fast, and I can hit 192. I can average my "theoretical max" for half an hour.

Nice 5 second power.

Get WKO+. If you use Linux, run it in WINE.
Makes you wonder why and how they came up with 220-age.
I see WKO+ in my future!

I can do a little more power than I did, but at my weight I am still underpowered!
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Makes you wonder why and how they came up with 220-age.
Here's a good article:
http://ezinearticles.com/?The-Myth-O...-Age&id=678707

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I can do a little more power than I did, but at my weight I am still underpowered!
But that doesn't make much difference if the road is flat or downhill.
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On my list to buy, thanks!
Not to ***** myself out or anything, but I have a link to it on my commercial site that will kick some money my way....if you're going to buy it anyway....

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WKO+ is supposed to be the shizzle!
I'm too poor for it right now.
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WKO+ is supposed to be the shizzle!
Confirmed.
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Reading Training and Racing with a Power Meter as I type this. Picked it up after work. Now to learn what all this data means.
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