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Old 04-12-09, 09:39 PM
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Double training days

Does anyone do these (2 workouts in a day) in preparation for stage races? Just curious as to what people have tried.
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Old 04-12-09, 09:49 PM
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There's nothing stage race-specific about doing two workouts in a day. It's a format that works for some people. Important rule for training: you can't "cram" for a race.
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Old 04-12-09, 09:52 PM
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I tried it. I did 3 minute intervals and ended with 50 miles early in the day, rested and massaged my legs. 2 hours later I did a group ride and managed to react to splits and sprints and whatnot.

It's too bad I crashed.
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For time purposes I usually do two rides/workouts a day. Not really any different IMO than doing a single longer workout. If I am going to do intervals or something hard at lunch or in the evening I may just ride SST or tempo in the morning.

I did 3 rides many days last year but this year with doing a lot more intensity it hasn't worked out too well the few times I tried it

SST in the morning+hill interval group ride at lunch=pulling out of windy practice crit
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Training for stage races you need to get used to doing multiple days of intensity in a row. Don't take an easy day after an interval day. You will feel like crap and not be able to produce the power you want, but if you do these mini crash blocks your body will adapt and it won't be so bad during the race.
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Old 04-12-09, 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by umd View Post
For time purposes I usually do two rides/workouts a day. Not really any different IMO than doing a single longer workout. If I am going to do intervals or something hard at lunch or in the evening I may just ride SST or tempo in the morning.

I did 3 rides many days last year but this year with doing a lot more intensity it hasn't worked out too well the few times I tried it

SST in the morning+hill interval group ride at lunch=pulling out of windy practice crit
Thanks for the info everyone. This was pretty much what I was thinking of doing.
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Old 04-13-09, 01:53 AM
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Originally Posted by CrimsonKarter21 View Post
I tried it. I did 3 minute intervals and ended with 50 miles early in the day, rested and massaged my legs. 2 hours later I did a group ride and managed to react to splits and sprints and whatnot.

It's too bad I crashed.
Wait, what the heck happened to you?
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Old 04-13-09, 06:24 AM
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Famous Sean Kelly quote.

"I see these kids (younger teammates) sitting around the telly all afternoon. I say when are you planning on training? They say, we already did two hours this morning. I shook my head and asked, why not another two this afternoon?"
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I stack the rides back to back, like mentioned above. Two-a-days didn't work out well for me. (tried endurance mornings, intense afternoons and vice-versa)

But I can run about 3 back to back hard days when I'm in the groove.
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Old 04-13-09, 07:34 AM
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Wait, what the heck happened to you?
City limit sprint. Barrelling down on the left. Passed a few riders. Rider just in front and to my right turned left onto a side street without looking. I T-boned him without even enough time to yell, brake or turn.
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City limit sprint. Barrelling down on the left. Passed a few riders. Rider just in front and to my right turned left onto a side street without looking. I T-boned him without even enough time to yell, brake or turn.
Sue him for negligence and then hang him by his d**k until he bleeds to death.
If he is a friend, let him off the hook with a good punch to the kidney.
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Sue him for negligence and then hang him by his d**k until he bleeds to death.
If he is a friend, let him off the hook with a good punch to the kidney.
Haha seriously.

That's the stupidest thing you can do...
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Old 04-13-09, 11:28 AM
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Work and family life permitting, I'll try to do a double on Thursdays: tempo ride before work and a group ride after. I can tell I'm getting into form when the Friday morning ride after doesn't suck.
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Old 04-13-09, 01:45 PM
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Will be doing this today, SST ride to work, intervals on the way home. Leaving in 15 min!
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Old 04-13-09, 02:36 PM
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I commute.

Does that count?
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I commute.

Does that count?
Hell yes.
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Old 04-13-09, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by bdcheung View Post
I commute.

Does that count?
... yeah but on the MUP? can you get any serious intervals apart from that overcrowded section past Vienna?
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Originally Posted by Nickel View Post
Does anyone do these (2 workouts in a day) in preparation for stage races? Just curious as to what people have tried.
I've wondered the same thing, though I doubt it. This year I get 2-3 days of commuting to work as my workouts and I had a great time at a recent stage race. No idea if there is a correlation though.
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Old 04-13-09, 07:28 PM
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Sue him for negligence and then hang him by his d**k until he bleeds to death.
If he is a friend, let him off the hook with a good punch to the kidney.
If it were anyone but a friend, they wouldn't make it far. My adrenaline was already kicked into hyperdrive where I didn't feel a thing afterwards.
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... yeah but on the MUP? can you get any serious intervals apart from that overcrowded section past Vienna?
Not on the MUP. Here's my current route:

http://www.mapmyride.com/ride/united-states/dc/washington/457123800013360586

I end up on the MUP, but only for cooldown. There are other routes I could take that avoid the W&OD altogether.

If I wanted to avoid the trail, then right at mile 20 I would take the right onto Beulah, left onto Browns Mill, left on Crowell, left on Hunter Mill, right on Sunset Hills and take that to the bike shop.
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Nice... consider it stolen.
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