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Old 04-14-09, 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by ericm979 View Post
When I first got serious about cycling I didn't understand that I needed to eat more and better to support it.
I'd been a computer nerd before that, and my training had been sitting in front of a computer. The difference between sitting on my ass all day and three hours a day is a lot of calories.

I'm 5'9" tall and got as low as 115 lbs before I figured out something was wrong. I don't know what it did to my performance as I was still learning what I was doing on a bike. Eventually I figured out that my healthy race weight was around 135 lbs. That was when I was 29, now at 30 it's more like 145- I can't get quite as lean and I am trying to carry a bit more muscle.
You described me pretty well so I just changed some of the details...
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I'm 5'4 and about 160 (came from a lifting background so bear with me). If I really cared I could be in the 135-140 range and probably be a killer climber. Unfortunately, that would mean I'd have to give up beer and that's not happening. Oh well.

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Originally Posted by botto View Post
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[IMG.]http://www.hort.purdue.edu/ext/senior/fruits/images/large/lemons.jpg[/IMG]

btw - if you mean LeMond's world's team, ask him why he was so useless.
Sorry man. It was close to quitting time for me and I got in a hurry.

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Easy.... Easy
Again. I screwed up. 12,000' of climbing. Doing about 120 miles total I think. Goodness, I need someone over my shoulder to check my mistakes.
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Old 04-14-09, 07:10 PM
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5'9.5"

I was 135 3 years ago. I am at 154 right now. I was the best mix of power and climbing at around 148.

To stay below 140, I could not eat enough to train effectively. Staying super lean and retaining power is hard for us weekend warriors.
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Old 04-14-09, 08:39 PM
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I ride better when I'm skinnier. To a point. When I drop below 165 lbs I start slowing down. 165-167 is ideal for me. I'm 5'11", large frame. The chances of me getting under 170 lbs this summer are unlikely, particularly because I refuse to step on a scale, so if I did get down to 168, I'd never know.

But I'll know. You know what I'm talking about. I don't need no stupid scale. Now where the F are those Yodels?
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Old 04-14-09, 09:44 PM
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I just turned 20, so my metabolism is probably a little different than that of some other posters.

In the summer after 10th grade, my weight dropped from the 160-170 rage to 135 lbs. I stayed at that weight for a few months and then settled in at around 140-142 from then till last year.

I started cycling freshman year, and I learned that I was good on the climbs, but didn't have much else going for me. I got better as the season progressed and went from being dropped in the 4/5 crits to being able to hit it hard enough to stay in them. I got better by mid april and was finishing in the pack with ease. Then I had my accident at the end of april.

When I started riding again in the fall, I weighed 160. I dropped back down to 150 soon after, but I'm still in the 146-150 range and haven't been able to get back down to 140 lbs I used to weigh, but at this new weight 5-10 lbs heavier, I can sprint a LOT better than I used to be able to.

I doubt I'll ever weight in the 140-142 range again if I keep racing and training. I'm stronger than I used to be before, and I'm continuing to get stronger now. My climbing will continue to improve as I learn to find my tempo and groove to it instead of attacking too hard at everything.

It'll all come back
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Old 04-14-09, 10:08 PM
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I weighed 185 fully clothed w/shoes at the doctor's office the other day. He was happy I lost 10 pounds in the last 6 months. He seemed to think I was going to stop losing weight. I didn't tell him I was going to keep going. Not sure what my goal is because I haven't done anything to get to this point -- from over 220. I have noticed my climbing is a lot better, but I've been riding a lot more. I figure losing weight is an easy way to get faster for at least another 20 pounds or so.

I remember feeling a stronger when I got up to 155 from 150. I also thought I was overweight.
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Old 04-14-09, 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by ridethecliche View Post
I just turned 20, so my metabolism is probably a little different than that of some other posters.
I'm 51. I'll get down to 170 lbs in the summer. I go up to 180-185 in the winter. If I get down to 165 lbs, everybody I know who hasn't seen me for a while thinks I'm sick. I look like this @ that weight (this photo from a couple of years ago:



That's an ideal cycling weight for me. But the point is that if I ever got below 160, I'd really look ill. I'm 5'11". When I was 20, I was about 150 lbs. When I graduated high school, I was the same height I am now, but 135 lbs. So the skinniest I've been in the last 20 years has been about 163 or so, nearly 30 lbs heavier than when I was 17, and I'm rather emaciated at that weight.

The point of the story: many men gain substantial weight from age 17-23, and it's mostly muscle mass from filling out. At age 20, you may be able to sustain a lighter weight than you can several years from now.
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Old 04-14-09, 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by patentcad View Post
The point of the story: many men gain substantial weight from age 17-23, and it's mostly muscle mass from filling out. At age 20, you may be able to sustain a lighter weight than you can several years from now.
As long as I keep riding and stay active and stay strong, I'll be happy no matter my weight. If I can keep being competitive in races and have a bit of a sprint and a similar W/KG to now, I'll be happy.

I'm going to spend the next 2 weeks lifting because I can't ride (injured). So lets see how that goes.

I just want to lead an active lifestyle, I just want to have the ability to do that for the rest of my life.
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Old 04-14-09, 11:11 PM
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People who aren't cyclists call me skinny, but they don't know the half of it. At 5'5" and about 123 lbs, I'm reasonably solid for a cyclists of my height, but my relatively under-built upper body (even for a cyclist) gives an illusion of my being even smaller than I really am. My brother has essentially the exact same frame, but is about 10-15 lbs heavier due to upper body muscle. I have little doubt that with a little bit of focus, I could add several pounds of muscle in perhaps a year or less.

Blah blah blah. Point is, I should save this photo for demonstration whenever I am told that I am "too skinny." I'm well within the normal range of weight for my height, and my shins and calves do appear to have some actual muscle and soft tissue attached to them, which is more than Mr. Wiggins can say.
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Old 04-14-09, 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by patentcad View Post
The point of the story: many men gain substantial weight from age 17-23, and it's mostly muscle mass from filling out. At age 20, you may be able to sustain a lighter weight than you can several years from now.
I'm 23 and still waiting to "fill out". I'm only about 3 lbs heavier than I was at 15. My legs are much stronger, though, and bigger. I'm not sure where I've lost weight to compensate for that gain.

But I have started getting a bit of chest hair in the last couple years, so we'll just have to see, won't we?
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Old 04-14-09, 11:47 PM
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My arms are actually pretty defined, but not bulky.

The next few weeks of lifting instead of riding should make me a little stronger...
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Originally Posted by substructure View Post
Sorry man. It was close to quitting time for me and I got in a hurry.

http://www.bobkestrut.com/2008/09/04/king-of-the-world/

John Patterson will be with us.
very coo.l i'm sure he could rip me to pieces, but other than boyer, that team wasn't much of a team.

btw - bobkestrut is one of my favorite blogs.

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Originally Posted by grolby View Post
I'm 23 and still waiting to "fill out".
Good luck with that. I'm about the same size as you; 15 years out of college and I'm still about the same weight. The only time I got above 130 was during a brief gym rat stage where I ceased all aerobic activity.

I must not be doing my fair share of the office Krispy Kremes.
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Originally Posted by botto View Post
very coo.l i'm sure he could rip me to pieces, but other than boyer, that team wasn't much of a team.

btw - bobkestrut is one of my favorite blogs.
I need to add this blog to my list.

As for John, it's like he got better with age. This guy is screaming fast. I've seen him lap a masters field TWICE in a solo crit victory.
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I ate salad and broccoli for dinner last night. I fulfilled my protein quota with a nice glass of skim milk.
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I had a burrito (fish, but still) and a pint of ice cream to fulfill my protein.
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I ate chicken, broccoli, white rice, and green beans last night.
I walked in from work, the table was set, dinner was prepared, and everyone was waiting for me.

My wife is preparing me a real fruit smoothie every night now to be ready for me in the morning after I'm done training. Yesterday was blueberry, today was banana. I eat a protein bar with it. She pampering me for something.
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I had, uhh ... chili.
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Originally Posted by AlexTaylor View Post
Weight obviously is an important factor but I'm sure there has to be a trade-off somewhere. This was prompted by a picture of Bradley Wiggins at P-R, he states he has been losing (sorry, this is teh internet, I mean loosing)weight to help him concentrate on road racing.

But, I mean, bimey!
He's going alright too. Couple of podiums in TT's this year, up there in Gent-Wevelgem, 25th at Roubaix IIRC.
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Old 04-15-09, 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by substructure View Post
I ate chicken, broccoli, white rice, and green beans last night.
I walked in from work, the table was set, dinner was prepared, and everyone was waiting for me.

My wife is preparing me a real fruit smoothie every night now to be ready for me in the morning after I'm done training. Yesterday was blueberry, today was banana. I eat a protein bar with it. She pampering me for something.

Congratulations!

Are you hoping for a boy or a girl?

My wife cooked me my favourite tea then she dropped that bombshell on me...
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Originally Posted by AlexTaylor View Post
Congratulations!

Are you hoping for a boy or a girl?

My wife cooked me my favourite tea then she dropped that bombshell on me...
No ... can't be. She's starting to complain about her body changing due to age. You know, as Archie Bunker put it, "mentalpause." So that ain't it. Maybe I should check her Passat for damage.

btw. The only way having a child would be a "bombshell" is if she said, "I'm pregnant." Followed by, "It ain't yours."
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Good luck with that.
I said "waiting" with a certain degree of sarcasm. I don't feel insecure about my lack of bulk.
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Like most cyclists I obsessed about my weight until I ran some #s w a power calculator. In the end the calculator showed that you're better off picking up 10 watts than losing 10 lbs.

For example if you have two riders who both put out 250 watts, and one weighs 155 lbs and the other 145 lbs, and they climb a 6.5 mile 6% hill, the lighter rider will finish in 36:12, the heavier rider in 38:09.

If the heavier rider picks up 10 additional watts, he finishes the climb in 36:54. Still behind the lighter rider, but he's closed the gap dramatically. IME I've found it much easier to pick up 10 watts, than to try and lose 10 lbs.

You can run your own simulations here...

http://bikecalculator.com/veloMetricNum.html
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