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Old 04-21-09, 01:04 PM
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Train Heavy/Standard, Race Light/Aero?

I finally managed to get a ride on my token C50s this evening. My plan was to do an easy 1.5 hour recovery ride, and see how the wheels felt.

That was the plan, but I ended I up meeting my Tuesday training ride group, on way out of town. I rode with them for the first +/-10km, then we parted.

One thing that I noticed, was that there were a significant amount of riders sporting aero wheels. Fair enough, or so I thought.

Then I realized that the one guy in the group who's actually been to the Olympics was sporting what looked like good ol' Mavic OP rims. Funny that.

Which leads me wondering, how you roll?

Me, I'm planning on saving the C50s for races.
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Old 04-21-09, 01:11 PM
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I train heavy, race light =)

For a cat 5 anyway.
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Ive got carbone premium clinchers. (1755gr) laced to my PT hub for everyday riding/training...seems like this would fall under the 'heavy' category...I'll be using carbone pro tubulars for (occasional) racing. I dont know what these weigh but would guess theyre a few hundred grams lighter.
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Right now I train and race on Mavic Ksyrium SL's and train on Elites. I haven't raced yet on my Easton tubular low profiles - I resist change.

More importantly, what did you think of the C50's. I would like to get some aero wheels but keep going in circles on carbon-aluminum-clincher-tubular-training/racing-race only wheels.
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Old 04-21-09, 01:15 PM
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Training/Group Rides/Training Races: OP's 3x on 105 hubs w/ 25mm Conti Gran Prix 4 Seasons
Race: Ksyrium ES w/ 23mm Pro2 Race

I thought about getting some aero wheels, but I don't think they'll help me with my biggest problems (weak engine, 10lbs above where I should be, and lack of pack confidence.)
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Originally Posted by wanders View Post
Right now I train and race on Mavic Ksyrium SL's and train on Elites. I haven't raced yet on my Easton tubular low profiles - I resist change.

More importantly, what did you think of the C50's. I would like to get some aero wheels but keep going in circles on carbon-aluminum-clincher-tubular-training/racing-race only wheels.
too early to tell. they'll be seeing action on saturday and sunday, so i should have a better idea by then.
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I train and race on Ksryium SLs. I'm trying to save my nickels and dimes for some race day only aero wheels.

Botto: how do you like those Tokens?

[edit: you already answered my question!]
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All of my wheels are around the same weight, so I guess...

I train "Standard" and race "Aero"
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Old 04-21-09, 01:35 PM
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Train on niobium 30s w/PT, and on Open Pro w/Pt, Race on 404 tubs w/PT.
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My budget only allows me to train AND race on my Easton EA90 SL wheelset.

I have a Shimano WH-R500 wheelset as a backup/pit wheelset/trainer wheel and then have a few other wheels laying around for whatever else... loaners, etc. Every now and then I've throw on the shimano wheels just because... I guess I could train on them more but I love my Eastons.

If I had really good aero wheels, I'd use them as much as possible, too. I don't wanna own a set of wheels to only use them once or twice a month.
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Train on Kyserium Elite front and Mavic OP laced to a PT SL in the back.

Race on older Zipp 303s, rear is laced to a PT SL.
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Old 04-21-09, 01:56 PM
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Train and race with the same wheels. Main set is RR1.1 - like Open Pro. Basically a box section rim. When using my powertap it's laced to a 30mm rim, but heavier than a tub of lead.

I raced with it this weekend in 4 races.


TT's I use or borrow light and aero wheels. Crits and road races I don't really care because the only time I am out of the pack is when I'm off the back.
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Train on Mavic CXP22's 32/32 with Ultegra hubs. Race on HED carbons.
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I train light and race lighter
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My training bike rides on Open Pros w/ Powertap. The race bike has Reynolds 46 tubulars. I also put the Ksyrium ES's on the race rig for weekend group rides.
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Train and race on RR 1.1 with a heavy PT. I'm not going to change that until I drop below 160lbs and THAT could take years.
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Train heavy/clincher/aero race lighter/tubular/aero. Of course, I just arrived in Spain today and my rear Hed Jet is waaay out of true after unpacking. Maybe I should've brought the Open Pros.
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Originally Posted by KendallF View Post
Train heavy/clincher/aero race lighter/tubular/aero. Of course, I just arrived in Spain today and my rear Hed Jet is waaay out of true after unpacking. Maybe I should've brought the Open Pros.
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I wish I had 2000 gram aero wheels to train on. I feel it's good to train on aero because it handles differently from non-aero, esp at high speeds and in strong wind. But I want a heavier set of wheels.

Otherwise, yeah, I'm no longer training on my light, cool DV46Cs. DV46T and a Zipp 440 front for racing.

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Originally Posted by carpediemracing View Post
I wish I had 2000 gram aero wheels to train on. I feel it's good to train on aero because it handles differently from non-aero, esp at high speeds and in strong wind. But I want a heavier set of wheels.

Otherwise, yeah, I'm no longer training on my light, cool DV46Cs. DV46T and a Zipp 440 front for racing.

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Originally Posted by carpediemracing View Post
I wish I had 2000 gram aero wheels to train on. I feel it's good to train on aero because it handles differently from non-aero, esp at high speeds and in strong wind. But I want a heavier set of wheels.

Otherwise, yeah, I'm no longer training on my light, cool DV46Cs. DV46T and a Zipp 440 front for racing.

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Williams 58 carbon clincher, 1879g. Very aero, perfect for training if that's your thing (heavy, aero, and inexpensive). Braking is probably much better than your Reynolds/Zipp too.

Did you stop training on your DV46C because of durability issues, or? Also, how do the DV46T and 404 compare to one another?
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Train heavy, Race heavy.


Mavic CXP33's 32/32 with Ultegra hubs.

probably wont have "race" wheels till next season.
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Originally Posted by Scummer View Post
Train and race on RR 1.1 with a heavy PT. I'm not going to change that until I drop below 160lbs and THAT could take years.
+1 except it's 150 for me, which may only take months.
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