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Pride Before the Fall? Or Damn the Torperdos!

Old 04-22-09, 09:01 AM
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Pride Before the Fall? Or Damn the Torperdos!

I have a 2 day stage race coming this weekend. I've done a few races since retiring and then coming back. Both were fun but I hadn't trained seriously for either.

I have been putting in some serious training for this one though.

There are 2 races: Day 1 is 170km+ point-to-point and Day 2 is a slightly shorter point-to-point.

I was feeling pretty good during my last hammerfest on Saturday and during my solo climbing ride on Sunday. I certainly am the fittest since climbing back on the bike.

The problem is I have lost my perspective. The guys I train with here now I started training 3 years ago. Then I could ride away at will. They continued racing and training and got stronger. I retired then unretired. Now I have a REALLY hard time dropping the last few of these guys during our hammerfest.

I'm just starting to stress out because this is one of the more important races of the year and the one where all the new teams, kit, riders and gear make their real debut. There have been a few races already but they were like other early season races. This is the first A race.

I am looking toward 2010 and building a new team. That means I need results (or exposure) in 2009. This race is really good for that.

But this isn't a race that suits me. The first day starts with a early series of climbs that serve as a selector. It only a few km of climbing but it is early and steep. I've gotten dropped here probably 7 of the 10 times I've raced this course.

The climbing in the second day is at the mid-way point and not nearly as steep. I can usually claw my way along with main group over this even when not feeling great. If I'm feeling good I have no trouble here. In fact, my best results for this race have all come on the second day.

It's not just the racing either. The driving and all the hoopla around this race can be exhausting. The smaller races are no biggie even if there is an overnight. Those are still fun. This seems more like work.

I'm not sure what my point was or even if I have one.

Pardon the ramblings.

Carry on.
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Old 04-22-09, 09:46 AM
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Old 04-22-09, 02:49 PM
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i know what it feels like to become a lot slower because of time off the bike.
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Originally Posted by tubescreamerx View Post
i know what it feels like to become a lot slower because of time off the bike.
Same here.
Out 5 months with pancreatitis last year.
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Suffer like you have never suffered before on the first day. Do not worry about how you will race on the second day.

You will then then inspired to race like a god on the second day.

You know what I saw is true. Now do it.

In edit: The last line should read "You know what I say is true." Perhaps I had a premonition.

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Originally Posted by mollusk View Post
Suffer like you have never suffered before on the first day. Do not worry about how you will race on the second day.

You will then then inspired to race like a god on the second day.

You know what I saw is true. Now do it.
very good advice
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Thanks for the push.

I was winging a bit as I was tired and not looking forward to all the prep and driving that these races require.

Once we start rolling I'll be fine. Autopilot will kick in and we'll be racing.

I'll post a report after the fact. Hopefully with some good pics. This really is a good race.
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go to the race with your bicycle....and race...htfu "Bob"
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Originally Posted by Bob Dopolina View Post

not looking forward to all the prep and driving that these races require.

Once we start rolling I'll be fine. Autopilot will kick in and we'll be racing.
+1.

I get more stressed out about logistics and travel than I do about the actual races. I'm doing an omnium next weekend and I think my planning & travel to racing time ratio will be close to 4:1.
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Originally Posted by Enthalpic View Post
+1.

I get more stressed out about logistics and travel than I do about the actual races. I'm doing an omnium next weekend and I think my planning & travel to racing time ratio will be close to 4:1.
4:1? That's it?

I drove a total of about 18 hours to and from WVU for a TT that took me an hour (I took a wrong turn, poorly marked), 2 hours of road racing (got dropped), and about 10 minutes of a crit (got pulled, jerk officials).

I think the best part of being a pro would be not having to think about all the logistics. Pack some clothes, get on a bus, eat what they tell you and when they tell you, sleep when they tell you, race when they tell you, sign autographs when they tell you, get home, train when and how they tell you, etc.
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Damn the Torpedoes is the right attitude. It's why I'm dropping a chunk of change to race a nice, hilly road race one week after the 4's wiped the floor with me in a race of the exact same distance. It's good training, if nothing else.

Also, racing is fun. Right? Guys?
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I had a good night's sleep and I just got back from a shake down ride on my race wheels.

Bike feels solid and I feel rested and healthy.

I'll put on some fresh bar wrap tonight. That's good for an extra 10w.

I've packed the team car and my personal stuff.

Now all the prep is done (save the killer drive tomorrow) I'm starting to look forward to a couple of good road races.


Time to eat.
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Good luck.

My race was just canceled. ;(
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Originally Posted by Flatballer View Post
4:1? That's it?

I drove a total of about 18 hours to and from WVU for a TT that took me an hour (I took a wrong turn, poorly marked), 2 hours of road racing (got dropped), and about 10 minutes of a crit (got pulled, jerk officials).

I think the best part of being a pro would be not having to think about all the logistics. Pack some clothes, get on a bus, eat what they tell you and when they tell you, sleep when they tell you, race when they tell you, sign autographs when they tell you, get home, train when and how they tell you, etc.
And here I am fretting over 421 miles to Fayatteville, AR for the Joe Martin Stage Race.
My in-the-car skills need to HTFU!
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Originally Posted by Bob Dopolina View Post
I had a good night's sleep and I just got back from a shake down ride on my race wheels.

Bike feels solid and I feel rested and healthy.

I'll put on some fresh bar wrap tonight. That's good for an extra 10w.

I've packed the team car and my personal stuff.

Now all the prep is done (save the killer drive tomorrow) I'm starting to look forward to a couple of good road races.


Time to eat.
Doing an all out 3 minute power test has been shown on average to be good for about 25 FTP watts. You should throw one of them in prior as well.


Good Luck.
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I rode in the ELITE Cat. That includes ELITE MASTERS (E40). They also have regular age group Cats as well. They won't let me ride in those.

The guy that won the first day is a legend in Japan. He just finished a 3 year stint as Japan National Team coach and is back racing again.

It was 2 days of some epic weather. I'll post the long version in the BLOG of BOB later.

Tour of East Taiwan - Stage 1

Little sleep.

Woke to rain.

A series of 3km walls 30km in shattered the field.

A group of 9 got away, followed by a second group of 9. We were a group of 5 chasing, chasing, chasing.

Strong tailwinds kept the pace insanely high. We chased for 20 minutes. I was in my 12 or 13 holding 55kph getting nowhere.

We eased off. The two groups of 9 joined. Our group swelled to 30+. We chased full out for another hour and got nowhere. The 4 minute gap help until the end.

Attacked our group 16km from the finish. We shelled some riders. I got stuffed into the curb in the sprint and had to settle for 3rd.

Did I mention the rain?

Tour of East Taiwan - Stage 2

Better sleep but not ideal.

Rain threatening and 180km of big headwind on tap.

Lots of early attacks. I mostly hid for the first 80km.

Tried 1 early move: I saw a good group form up the rode. I attacked with 1 on my wheel. We got a small gap but the group was chasing hard. 1 rider (the eventual winner) bridged to us. We worked for a few minutes but the field was closing. I sat up and drifted back. The field eased and the 2 riders rolled away again.

Damn.

They caught the lead group and attacked them to stay away for the win. We caught the rest (which would have been me).

The main climb at 100km in. I pushed the pace on the climb and was 2nd at the intermediate sprint (series points).

The team launched a series of attacks in the last hour. Finally 3 riders (in two groups) got away. I blocked. I sat on chasers. I was yelled at and flipped the bird.

Good position on the finishing climb but the sprint didn't wind up until the final 500m. Too many riders who thought they had a chance and I wasn't on top of the gear. Not my kind of sprint.

2nd through 6th was less than half a second apart. I was 5th and upright.

Our team was 2nd overall and we made some money.

Fan belt broke on the drive home and I spent all mine.

End of story.
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Well done Bob.

Did they have podium girls?
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Well done Bob.

Did they have podium girls?
No such luck this time.
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