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Old 04-24-09, 08:18 AM
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that hypothetical racing strategy series

I forget what the title was, but can someone continue it?
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Old 04-24-09, 08:50 AM
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how about this:

Flat RR coming up. Just found out my team will have 4 motors who are going to be measurably stronger than the rest of the field. Unfortunately they don't have much pack racing experience, so me, being the little electric golf-cart in the group of corvettes, I am supposed to organize some way for us to maximize our placings.
The only interesting bits of the course are a 5 mile gravel section (x2) and an apparent 'hill' which probably isn't 2 minutes long.
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Old 04-24-09, 09:11 AM
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I suspect you assume alot about the strength of others who havent pack experience compared to the pack.

what does "maximize placings" mean? if its like 4 in the top 10, then JRA with the pack, keep everything together (shouldnt be an issue if these 4 guys are stronger than everyone else), and ride fast at the end.

if you are actually looking to race as a team and try to win, then you'll have to "make the race" instead of waiting for terrain to break it up.

depends on the technical nature of the section, but often, gravel sections are where a race is lost, but not won; however, folks will burn alot of energy on them then the pace will lull a little upon exiting a gravel stretch. THAT's where an opportunity to split the field occurs. doubly so if your 2' hill is near the exit of a gravel stretch. have 2 of the 4 attack there and drive it while the other 2 sit in the draft. other 2 attack at 1K, 1 doing the work, other staying fresh and going for the W when there's a big gap.
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Originally Posted by MDcatV View Post
I suspect you assume alot about the strength of others who havent pack experience compared to the pack.
fair enough. they are triathletes who are competitive (top 10 collegiate nationals competitive), and are forced to race in a lower division in our collegiate RR. They ride with the cycling team some (can ride in a pack), and we've tried to convince them to race enough to get some upgrade points, but they like running and swimming too much.
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what does "maximize placings" mean? if its like 4 in the top 10, then JRA with the pack, keep everything together (shouldnt be an issue if these 4 guys are stronger than everyone else), and ride fast at the end.
collegiate points go deeper than the number of guys we have in the field. we want as many guys placing as high as possible
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if you are actually looking to race as a team and try to win, then you'll have to "make the race" instead of waiting for terrain to break it up.

depends on the technical nature of the section, but often, gravel sections are where a race is lost, but not won; however, folks will burn alot of energy on them then the pace will lull a little upon exiting a gravel stretch. THAT's where an opportunity to split the field occurs. doubly so if your 2' hill is near the exit of a gravel stretch. have 2 of the 4 attack there and drive it while the other 2 sit in the draft. other 2 attack at 1K, 1 doing the work, other staying fresh and going for the W when there's a big gap.
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Old 04-27-09, 11:20 PM
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1. teach 'em how to paceline / echelon
2. make sure they're at the front going into the gravel
3. haul ass.

that should improve the odds pretty well. might even get 4 guys away.
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Old 04-28-09, 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Creakyknees View Post
1. teach 'em how to paceline / echelon
2. make sure they're at the front going into the gravel
3. haul ass.

that should improve the odds pretty well. might even get 4 guys away.
we went with option 4: Everybody flats

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Old 04-28-09, 08:51 AM
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hmmm ok. that's one approach.
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Haha, well that sucks...
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