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Old 04-28-09, 07:49 AM
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Worthwhile to upgrade my bike?

I'm just getting into racing and while I don't have any real expectations, I'd prefer it to be a lack of training more so than lack of equipment holding me off the back. I'm torn on whether or not it's worthwhile to perform a few upgrades to my current bike or if I should sell it in favor of something racier. The current ride is a Giant OCRC3 with a 105 triple 9 speed setup and stock Xero XR-1 wheels. I'm looking to switch up to a carbon double crankset that I found for $120 which will save about 300 grams and also looking at buying a set of wheels that will shave another 600-700 grams for roughly $450. That puts me at $600 more into this bike with only the wheelset worth keeping if I upgrade in the future. I figure my bike currently is only worth about $700 on the used market as is so keeping the money in hand would still only put me at $1300 towards a new bike.

Is going to a $2500-3000 bike (say a tarmac expert or pro) really going to make that much of a difference for someone figuring to be a cat 3 at the most in a year or two? Am I better of sticking with what I have and somewhat putting lipstick on a pig (i.e. try making it a bit lighter/racier)?

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Old 04-28-09, 08:02 AM
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Skip the crank. Buy the wheels. (You need two sets anyway). Race the bike. Save money. Buy nicer bike down the road.
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Old 04-28-09, 08:25 AM
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Copy that...
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step 1: Read lances book (or at least the cover)

step 2: If you want to skip step 1 i'll just tell you "It's not about the bike"

step 3: Race what you've got. Earn your upgrades. When you use something so much it breaks then reward yourself with an upgrade.


If you really want to spend money, get the wheels. They say each gram you save from the spokes on out is equivalent to 2 grams anywhere else on the bike.
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Thnk of it this way: suppose you get a new bike and you still suck, how will that make you feel? You might as well suck on a suck bike rather than suck on a nice bike.

But if you just want something new then sure get a tarmac (I want one too but I can't get myself to hand over the credit card).
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Old 04-28-09, 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by captnfantastic View Post
step 1: Read lances book (or at least the cover)

step 2: If you want to skip step 1 i'll just tell you "It's not about the bike"

step 3: Race what you've got. Earn your upgrades. When you use something so much it breaks then reward yourself with an upgrade.



If you really want to spend money, get the wheels. They say each gram you save from the spokes on out is equivalent to 2 grams anywhere else on the bike.
This is marketing balony. Here is why (1/3 of the way down the page)
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Old 04-28-09, 09:56 AM
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New stuff is always good for inspiration to train hard and race. I bought a new bike and used it as inspiration to lose 20lbs and start racing. It works for some people. It's hard to push the limits in training (racing is a different matter altogether, just to be clear - I forget what I am riding in a race) if, psychologically, you are hating your bike.

But that said, racing what you have is adequate in the Cat4/5s. Upgrading wheels and crankset is similar to the above paragraph. Good from a psychological basis, and will give you a little bit of an advantage over what you are riding now, what, with a couple pounds taken off your bike (though this, too, is mostly psychological), but what you are riding now is adequate for racing.
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I did a couple of road races on a cross bike this season, placed just as well as I did on my carbon road bike.

If you can raise $1300 that would put yo on a CAAD9 5....
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If you haven't gotten a quality bike fit, spend money to get one before you do anything else. If your bike doesn't fit you well, sell it and buy a CAAD9-5 as Mongo suggested. If it does fit, see merlinextraligh's reply.
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get a 2nd wheelset, doesnt need to be fancy, just solid. Ks, fulcrum 3s, or similar handbuilt still fit the bill as well as anything for this.

join a team, they often have equipment discounts that are about and sometimes better than internet cost.

other than that, you'd be way better off spending the money you would spend on these upgrades or new bike on a coach who can assist you in learning how to train, how to ride your bike better, and how to race. a team will also assist you in this but it often isnt as direct or you specific as someone you're paying.
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OK, so it looks like wheels are pretty much the no brainer upgrade and then save my pennies for a better bike and work on improving myself first. Works for me. Now on to the wheels. For racing/training purposes am I better off going with something extra light (600 grams saved) for the weight savings or something in a 40-50mm aero rim (300 grams saved)? Right now the few crits I've done and our weekly training race/ride I'm averaging in the 21 mph range with the B group and mostly hanging on by the skin of my teeth through drafting. The A group is running 25+ for the course. Most of my individual rides are in the 18-20 mph range.

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Originally Posted by Buckshot77 View Post
OK, so it looks like wheels are pretty much the no brainer upgrade and then save my pennies for a better bike and work on improving myself first. Works for me. Now on to the wheels. For racing/training purposes am I better off going with something extra light (600 grams saved) for the weight savings or something in a 40-50mm aero rim (300 grams saved)? Right now the few crits I've done and our weekly training race/ride I'm averaging in the 21 mph range with the B group and mostly hanging on by the skin of my teeth through drafting. The A group is running 25+ for the course. Most of my individual rides are in the 18-20 mph range.

Thanks,
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you're just hanging on, weights vs. aero will make no difference. durability = #1 priority.

if you were winning/losing by tire widths, your fitness didnt need alot of work, and you had a collection of hoops in the garage, then aero would be top choice (the aero vs. weight discussion is older than time and you can use the search function to find more words on it than I could possibly type).
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