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RParker 05-06-09 07:49 PM

crash 09 Orbea Orca
 
Crashed tonnight in a crit Bike and rear Zipp are destroyed. Anyone know how much Orbea charges for a frame replacement ?:twitchy:

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bryceepoo 05-06-09 08:05 PM

Ouch... what shape are you in?

ridethecliche 05-06-09 08:08 PM

How are you doing?

cmh 05-06-09 08:13 PM

Sorry to see that. I hope you came out of it better than your bike.

Flatballer 05-06-09 08:17 PM

Wow. You slid that tire a long way. Did it blow?

I hope you're doing alright, that looks pretty rough. That's why I think people should race cheap bikes, definitely in crits.

RParker 05-06-09 08:26 PM

I am fine few minor scrapes, thanks for the well wishes. I stayed up right there was a guy with his front wheel stuck between the frame and my rear wheel so we slid forever. several went down around us looked like everyone walked away pretty good.

No the tire didn't blow kind of surprised me. The guy that hit be was able to keep going, he was on my left we went in to a slight turn and he swung wide hit me the guy behind me swerved and locked up with my bike. then the rest was from people braking trying to not hit us or from swerving into one another.

asmallsol 05-06-09 09:39 PM

send me the frame, I'll get it fixed by Calfee, and ride it for myself.

mista_chewey 05-06-09 10:30 PM

and people wonder why i don't race my nice bike but race a CAAD

CrimsonKarter21 05-06-09 10:34 PM

I'm sorry to see the frame. If you want I'll send you the info of a local carbon repair guy with a 24 hour turnaround who could fix that right up.
I really feel for you, I know the feeling.

euphoria 05-06-09 11:04 PM


Originally Posted by RParker (Post 8870724)
I am fine few minor scrapes, thanks for the well wishes. I stayed up right there was a guy with his front wheel stuck between the frame and my rear wheel so we slid forever. several went down around us looked like everyone walked away pretty good.

No the tire didn't blow kind of surprised me. The guy that hit be was able to keep going, he was on my left we went in to a slight turn and he swung wide hit me the guy behind me swerved and locked up with my bike. then the rest was from people braking trying to not hit us or from swerving into one another.

TBI wednesday crit I presume? Such a safe course, too...slick roads?

RParker 05-07-09 07:06 AM


Originally Posted by euphoria (Post 8871592)
TBI wednesday crit I presume? Such a safe course, too...slick roads?

That is the one. I think it was the first crash of the season, lucky me. :rolleyes:

I see the point in racing a cheaper bike that might be my next purchase after I get the Orbea back rolling.

procrit 05-07-09 07:11 AM

A friend of mine that lives in Uptown (Dallas) just broke his Orca... Top tube started developing a fracture, no crashes, 8mo old. They aren't going to warranty it. I was contemplating getting an Orbea, now I won't.

mike9903 05-07-09 09:14 AM

Orbea does not have a documented crash replacement program, they will just tell you to contact your local Orbea dealer and they will take care of everything through their rep. Friend ran over my Orca with his Ford F-150, frame was obviously ruined and Orbea took care of me no questions asked. The whole process took a little over a week before I had a new frame in hand.

That does look like it could be fixed by Calfee, but that will void your warranty on the frame, send those pictures to Calfee and see if you can get a quote. In my case it was cheaper to just purchase a new frame at the discounted crash replacement price.

pb2004 05-07-09 11:22 AM

Had a crack on my top tube in my 08 Orca. Orbea said that there was a clear impact point from which the crack developed so no warranty.

They offered me a replacement frame only for $1300 (same color and year) or a brand new 09 frame/fork in any color for $1530.

ridethecliche 05-07-09 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by pb2004 (Post 8874389)
Had a crack on my top tube in my 08 Orca. Orbea said that there was a clear impact point from which the crack developed so no warranty.

They offered me a replacement frame only for $1300 (same color and year) or a brand new 09 frame/fork in any color for $1530.

I've liked the way they've looked, but I'm never getting an Orbea now. Evar.

ZeCanon 05-08-09 07:45 AM


Originally Posted by ridethecliche (Post 8874465)
I've liked the way they've looked, but I'm never getting an Orbea now. Evar.

Most other companies are the same way. Ever try replacing a cracked Specialized? They offer you a new frame for $1300, and that's it.

That crack could be fixed by Calfee for $300, and you would barely be able to see the patch.

MDcatV 05-08-09 07:53 AM


Originally Posted by ridethecliche (Post 8874465)
I've liked the way they've looked, but I'm never getting an Orbea now. Evar.

you'll have to take cervelo, trek, cannondale, and specialized off your list too.

WCroadie 05-08-09 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by MDcatV (Post 8879798)
you'll have to take cervelo, trek, cannondale, and specialized off your list too.

Why do you say that? Trek replaced my cracked 5200 a few years back no questions asked

MDcatV 05-08-09 11:48 AM


Originally Posted by WCroadie (Post 8881209)
Why do you say that? Trek replaced my cracked 5200 a few years back no questions asked

as a crash replacement or as a manufacturer defect?

if as a mfr. defect, then that would be expected

if as a crash replacement, then you got lucky as the "lifetime" warranties dont cover things determined to be result of a crash.

ridethecliche 05-08-09 12:27 PM

I thought that pb2004's crack was a result of manufacturer defect but they turned him down anyway.

My bad.

MDcatV 05-08-09 12:37 PM


Originally Posted by ridethecliche (Post 8881551)
I thought that pb2004's crack was a result of manufacturer defect but they turned him down anyway.

My bad.

*except for serotta. they have a "members club" that you pay to join if you buy one of their frames. it's like $250/5 years and covers anything including repair of a broken frame up to a certain dollar amount. I've got a steel serotta fierte that I broke in a crash a few years ago, they fixed it and repainted it for the cost of shipping :)

rankin116 05-08-09 01:10 PM

I've heard C'Dale's crash replacement policy isn't too bad, but that came from a dealer. Anyone have experience with it?

pb2004 05-09-09 04:27 PM

I had 1 crash on the bike a year earlier. I did have a slight scratch about 2 inches from where the crack eventually developed.

mbhakti 05-10-09 11:27 AM

I know the Scott crash replacement is $500.


Glad you weren't seriously injured.

aicabsolut 05-10-09 02:16 PM


Originally Posted by ZeCanon (Post 8879743)
Most other companies are the same way. Ever try replacing a cracked Specialized? They offer you a new frame for $1300, and that's it.

That crack could be fixed by Calfee for $300, and you would barely be able to see the patch.

Because there are 2 fractures, and one of them is completely through the tube (at least, it looks to me like the 1st and 2nd picture are 2 different places), then it's going to be at least $500 for Calfee to fix it. With paint including redoing the decal, plus shipping, it could wind up totaling around $700+. .. I got this from going through Calfee for a broken Specialized frame. It was going to be pretty reasonable (about $500, including decal and return shipping)...until they found a second fracture in a different tube.


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