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Old 06-03-04, 11:36 AM
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eating prior to a short/fast race

what do you eat prior to a morning race? i have a 17 mile race coming up that starts at 6:45am. i'll probably need to start getting ready at 5:00am. what works for you?
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Old 06-03-04, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by timmhaan
what do you eat prior to a morning race? i have a 17 mile race coming up that starts at 6:45am. i'll probably need to start getting ready at 5:00am. what works for you?
Small bowl of oatmeal with berries, honey, and soy milk, maybe an egg white, juice ~1-2 hrs b4 the race.

Or a Mickey D bacon egg and cheese biscuit , but the race starts b4 they open. What kind of race starts b4 Ronald McDonald is up?
 
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Mainly, eat for it the day/evening before. But not too late. No big eating after 6:00 or you might miss the start while you're in the port-a-john futzing with your bibs.

Maybe a light, high carb, low fat and protein (so it will digest quickly) meal by around 5:15, and have a gel 20 minutes before the start. You should be set.
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Were you at this morning race in Prospect Park? Cat 5? I was doing the Cat4. I was little surprised that our little Tour of NY was such a BIG turn out. Total of 259 riders all fields combined. The Cat4 field, I think, has more than 50 riders. I got into a crash on the last one and half lap to go. I guess we were all very tired at the end and one rider touched a wheel and went down. He toke down about 5 guys with him, including me. No big injury to myself and the bike. The pace was insanely intense. I was doing 27 mph to 30 mph most of the time. The hill section we were up there doing 23 mph several times. I didn't even know I have that kind of speed in me. I have to learn how to move up in a field. The pace was so high throughout that there was no break at all. They were all neuturalized. Bunch sprint finish.

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what do you eat prior to a morning race? i have a 17 mile race coming up that starts at 6:45am. i'll probably need to start getting ready at 5:00am. what works for you?
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Originally Posted by R600DuraAce
Were you at this morning race in Prospect Park? Cat 5? I was doing the Cat4. I was little surprised that our little Tour of NY was such a BIG turn out. Total of 259 riders all fields combined. The Cat4 field, I think, has more than 50 riders. I got into a crash on the last one and half lap to go. I guess we were all very tired at the end and one rider touched a wheel and went down. He toke down about 5 guys with him, including me. No big injury to myself and the bike. The pace was insanely intense. I was doing 27 mph to 30 mph most of the time. The hill section we were up there doing 23 mph several times. I didn't even know I have that kind of speed in me. I have to learn how to move up in a field. The pace was so high throughout that there was no break at all. They were all neuturalized. Bunch sprint finish.
yes DuraAce, i was in that race as a cat 5! i was with my field for only a short time, and then i lost them. i had to ride solo for a while as i watched everyone pull away. you're right - this was REALLY fast. much, much, faster than i thought.

your group lapped me...maybe even more than once (pathetic i know). but i was riding as fast as i could. oh well, i was gald to finish in one piece. and i learned a lot too. for example, i need to train a lot more! sorry to hear you took a spill. i saw a few guys walking around with wounds (one looked kinda bad - on the hip where the shorts were completely ripped open on the side) so i probably saw you at one point.

are you doing the one in july? i think i'm going to start training harder and see where i'm at next month and possibly do that one as well. this was fun even though i suck. do you know how we get our results?
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Yeah, I will do all the Prospect Park races into my training. There aren't a lot though. I think last year there were more races held by Kissena. Let's just say that I could have earned my upgrade points from cat 5 to cat 4 racing in Prospect Park. Where did you get dropped? If on the climb, you need to train on your short, explosive effort. Just think sprinting on the climb.

For the result, you either ask the race officials or go to the website. Sometimes, they only post the top 10 results. For a cat 5, don't worry about your placing unless you finish the race in the top 15. Just do ten races and upgrade to cat 4.


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yes DuraAce, i was in that race as a cat 5! i was with my field for only a short time, and then i lost them. i had to ride solo for a while as i watched everyone pull away. you're right - this was REALLY fast. much, much, faster than i thought.

your group lapped me...maybe even more than once (pathetic i know). but i was riding as fast as i could. oh well, i was gald to finish in one piece. and i learned a lot too. for example, i need to train a lot more! sorry to hear you took a spill. i saw a few guys walking around with wounds (one looked kinda bad - on the hip where the shorts were completely ripped open on the side) so i probably saw you at one point.

are you doing the one in july? i think i'm going to start training harder and see where i'm at next month and possibly do that one as well. this was fun even though i suck. do you know how we get our results?
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i got dropped just after the climb actually. right at the top of the crest our group really started flying, but i was still recovering from the hill so they were gone after that.

i actually passed a few guys on the hill in the next few laps (they had also been dropped). i felt like i was just starting to get into the proper tempo near the end of the race! but of course it was way too late by then.
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so timmhaan, anyone who get into the first 15 will get prize? doesn't matter who is 1st or 15th? How safe it is in the PP park in the morning? and how many racers avg in one race?

I'm far away from racing, but you made me so curious about it, it sounds really fun. I used to race like that 10 years ago.
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The race is on the weekends, prospect park is closed to traffic from 7pm friday night all the way to 7am monday morning.
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Thanks slvoid, I know PP is closed to the traffic (you told me ), but I meant was how safe it is to the pedestrians and kids with small bikes hanging around, which I see all the time.
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Originally Posted by Nam
Thanks slvoid, I know PP is closed to the traffic (you told me ), but I meant was how safe it is to the pedestrians and kids with small bikes hanging around, which I see all the time.
there are signs along the route that indicate "warning - bike race in progress" along with volunteers stationed around to watch out for problems. there are also pace cars that ride in front of the groups and caution people that bikers are coming.

however, it is still open to the public while the race is going on, so you risk the chance of getting hit by a flying frisbee.
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Originally Posted by Nam
so timmhaan, anyone who get into the first 15 will get prize? doesn't matter who is 1st or 15th? How safe it is in the PP park in the morning? and how many racers avg in one race?

I'm far away from racing, but you made me so curious about it, it sounds really fun. I used to race like that 10 years ago.
the prizes change based on which cat you're in. ranging from cash to medals. i don't know too much about that - in fact i'm still trying to find out how to get my results (not posted anywhere and no reponse on my email yet).

the number of racers also change from cat to cat. they have field limits. but from what i've seen - it looked like about 40-50 riders per group. you should give it a try.
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For what it's worth, my coach recommends eating at least 3hours before a race, any start time, and consuming under 500 calories. The ratio of carbs to protein should be at least 4 to 1.

This is what I do prior to each race. It means some really early starts on the weekends, but there is a cost associated with doing anything we love.

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