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Crash716 05-11-09 09:30 AM


Originally Posted by Yep (Post 8893718)
Looked like Pettachi used Cav's leadout man to box him in when he jumped, and then at the line moved left just a bit and prevented any throw for the line. Seemed like a cagey win by Pettachi.

or smart...he did get the win against what's probably the fastest sprinter out there.

YMCA 05-11-09 09:31 AM


Originally Posted by enjoi07 (Post 8895666)
oh cav

caught up in the crash with most everyone else

Flak 05-11-09 09:35 AM

Pettachi has been looking great. Farrar a bridesmaid again...he's fast, but not very smart it seems. Never seems to make the right move at the right time.

NomadVW 05-11-09 09:40 AM

and if we weren't having fun yet... tomorrow we go uphill! Man, I love this Giro.

SushiJoe 05-11-09 09:45 AM


Originally Posted by NomadVW (Post 8895803)
and if we weren't having fun yet... tomorrow we go uphill! Man, I love this Giro.

ditto.

mike9903 05-11-09 09:49 AM

johanbruyneel:
Christian VDV (Garmin) just had a bad crash and is in the ambulance and out of the race. Didn't look good. Hope he's ok... Bummer.

Dubbayoo 05-11-09 09:52 AM


Originally Posted by Crash716 (Post 8895724)
or smart...he did get the win against what's probably the fastest sprinter out there.

If you go back and look Cavendish racked up his biggest wins in the 2008 Giro & Tour, when Petacchi wasn't in either race. I don't believe for a second MC is faster than Ale-jet.

deadly downtube 05-11-09 10:02 AM

If only Farrar took the pink jersey today :(

Crash716 05-11-09 10:05 AM


Originally Posted by Dubbayoo (Post 8895889)
If you go back and look Cavendish racked up his biggest wins in the 2008 Giro & Tour, when Petacchi wasn't in either race. I don't believe for a second MC is faster than Ale-jet.

meh..we'll see, god knows cav's beaten plenty of people that have beat Petacchi though.

should be a good year fo sho!!

El Diablo Rojo 05-11-09 10:11 AM

The best Tour of the year (yes I said it) and it's not on Versus....thank god for Universal Sports!!! After following pro cycling for over 25 years I'm still amazed how someone with a 500+meter lead still gets caught in the final K. I really felt for that guy, he was blown...and so close to the line...

ridethecliche 05-11-09 10:23 AM


Originally Posted by mike9903 (Post 8895870)
johanbruyneel:
Christian VDV (Garmin) just had a bad crash and is in the ambulance and out of the race. Didn't look good. Hope he's ok... Bummer.

No!

bac 05-11-09 10:41 AM

It looked to me that LPR Brakes took advantage of the crash.

When they saw that Cavendish was behind due to the crash, they went straight to the front, and put the hammer down for their "asthma patient". Not very classy, boys. :rolleyes:

... Brad

bdcheung 05-11-09 10:50 AM

oh whatever. it's a bike race, and it's not like Cav was in the running for overall GC.

El Diablo Rojo 05-11-09 10:57 AM


Originally Posted by bac (Post 8896203)
It looked to me that LPR Brakes took advantage of the crash.

When they saw that Cavendish was behind due to the crash, they went straight to the front, and put the hammer down for their "asthma patient". Not very classy, boys. :rolleyes:

... Brad

There was a 13 man break ahead of them that included Levi...Liquigas was the first big team to put the pressure on and start to pull the break back. What do you think they should have done, pulled up and let Levi get 1 minute or two on them? I sure didn't see Levi telling everyone to slow down the Pink jersey is caught up in a crash. I don't think LPR did anything underhanded at all

bac 05-11-09 11:02 AM


Originally Posted by El Diablo Rojo (Post 8896328)
I sure didn't see Levi telling everyone to slow down the Pink jersey is caught up in a crash.

I could be wrong, but that's how I saw it. That group out front did slow to allow the crash victims to recover. They were fanned out all over the road. The Italian commentator made mention of this.

It's not a huge deal, but I think the LPR Brakes/Salbutamol squadra took advantage of the crash. :D

... Brad

enjoi07 05-11-09 11:11 AM


Originally Posted by bac (Post 8896356)
I could be wrong, but that's how I saw it. That group out front did slow to allow the crash victims to recover. They were fanned out all over the road. The Italian commentator made mention of this.

It's not a huge deal, but I think the LPR Brakes/Salbutamol squadra took advantage of the crash. :D

... Brad


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Flak 05-11-09 11:46 AM

Yes, because it's super classy to be a sprinter and sit on a wheel until the last 200m.

As much as i enjoy the sprint finishes, sprinters are wheel suckers, and i don't like them.

mike9903 05-11-09 11:51 AM

tomdanielson

Tyler did one heck of a ride today! His rear derailleur cable got ripped out in the big crash in the end. He was stuck in one gear!

bac 05-11-09 11:53 AM


Originally Posted by Flak (Post 8896688)
Yes, because it's super classy to be a sprinter and sit on a wheel until the last 200m.

As much as i enjoy the sprint finishes, sprinters are wheel suckers, and i don't like them.

So sprint finishes should be banned like Boonen on a bender?

I like mountain finishes also, but there certainly is much entertainment in a heated sprint finish.

... Brad

Flak 05-11-09 11:56 AM

No don't ban them, i like the sprint finishes and they're a symptom of team tactics so they have to stay...

I just don't think sprinters themselves. They sit in all day, and only see wind in the last 200m. If we're talking about being classy riders, or riders with panache i don't think they are, or have any.

bdcheung 05-11-09 11:57 AM

Team slipstream site reporting broken ribs for Vandevelde. Also a "sprain" to his lower back.

bac 05-11-09 12:01 PM


Originally Posted by Flak (Post 8896773)
No don't ban them, i like the sprint finishes and they're a symptom of team tactics so they have to stay...

I just don't think sprinters themselves. They sit in all day, and only see wind in the last 200m. If we're talking about being classy riders, or riders with panache i don't think they are, or have any.

They are blessed/cursed with more fast-twitch muscles relative to slow-twitch. They really have no choice but to suck wheel.

And don't you consider this (McQuen) classy? ;)

http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/20...b__430x354.jpg

MDcatV 05-11-09 12:03 PM


Originally Posted by Flak (Post 8896773)
No don't ban them, i like the sprint finishes and they're a symptom of team tactics so they have to stay...

I just don't think sprinters themselves. They sit in all day, and only see wind in the last 200m. If we're talking about being classy riders, or riders with panache i don't think they are, or have any.

'cuz it's just that easy:rolleyes:

sprinters are indeed very classy bike racers, they put themselves into position to win day after day after day. much easier said and *****ed about than done.

anyway, I'm done with this assinine argument.

El Diablo Rojo 05-11-09 12:11 PM


Originally Posted by MDcatV (Post 8896837)
'cuz it's just that easy:rolleyes:

sprinters are indeed very classy bike racers, they put themselves into position to win day after day after day. much easier said and *****ed about than done.

anyway, I'm done with this assinine argument
.

Winner!!!

enjoi07 05-11-09 12:32 PM


Originally Posted by bac (Post 8896822)
They are blessed/cursed with more fast-twitch muscles relative to slow-twitch. They really have no choice but to suck wheel.

And don't you consider this (McQuen) classy?

he just might give you one of those for that name spelling.


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