California State Championships Course?
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California State Championships Course?
Since I have little or no idea how to judge a climb from a map; what do you guys think about this? Will being a climber help?
Looks like there is a 700foot gain in about 5 miles, but that is the hardest part. I am just having a little trouble picturing how steep this is? Has anyone rode this course?
Thanks in advance.
Oh, and really, how dirty is the Vagabond North? LOL. I need a cheap place to stay. I am broke.
course map here:
https://www.kernwheelmen.org/3d-image.php?i=GEC2008[1].jpg
Scroll down for elevation.
Looks like there is a 700foot gain in about 5 miles, but that is the hardest part. I am just having a little trouble picturing how steep this is? Has anyone rode this course?
Thanks in advance.
Oh, and really, how dirty is the Vagabond North? LOL. I need a cheap place to stay. I am broke.
course map here:
https://www.kernwheelmen.org/3d-image.php?i=GEC2008[1].jpg
Scroll down for elevation.
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Being a climber will help but it is not exclusively a climbing course. Assuming the same course as last year, there is a long descent and then endless rollers after the climb. The bulk of the climb was about 4 miles long and took the us in the 4s about 15 minutes.
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It's between 5 and 7%( I guess that would be six). Find a similar grade in your neighborhood..
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It's not a pure climbers course, but the hill is long enough to make a selection. Last year the 3's got whittled down to ~15-20 guys, none of whom were pure sprinters. After the hill the second lap we basically had a group where very few wanted it to come down to a field sprint. We basically just kept putting in digs on every roller and the false flat section just before the finish.
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It's not a pure climbers course, but the hill is long enough to make a selection. Last year the 3's got whittled down to ~15-20 guys, none of whom were pure sprinters. After the hill the second lap we basically had a group where very few wanted it to come down to a field sprint. We basically just kept putting in digs on every roller and the false flat section just before the finish.
BTW, decided against the dirty ol Vagabond and spent the extra 30bux for the Marriot...LOL. I need some good sleep and don't want to hear people next door.
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+1 to what the others said. The climb is enough to force a selection, but not strictly a climbers course. I really like this course (same as last year), it has a bit of everything and really gives "all arounders" a chance. Make sure your descending skills are in check, it's an easy descent to get dropped on.
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I am the worst climber ever and as such am intimately familiar with every pitch in this climb. You can big ring the first half (I do). Pitches up at the second cattle guard and stair steps up. most pitches you can see coming. After the false flat that last grind is tough, but short. Then its off to the races.
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I live here, done the loop a gazzilion times. Only three blind left handers to worry about. Plus they are sharp enough that you are on the outside (your lane) of the turns. With the lead moto's we are hoping to lessen the danger on these. On the upper part of the descent the left handers are decreasing radius, you have to slow for them. There is one towards the bottom (left hander) you can stay on the gas as it's not as sharp (I've done it at 42)
That said a big todo was made over descending Lilac at San Luis Rey and it turned out to be not a big deal. esammuli has done the race before so if he says it is sketchy I give that some weight. I did it last year also but I was only with a few guys at the time.
I am the worst climber ever and as such am intimately familiar with every pitch in this climb. You can big ring the first half (I do). Pitches up at the second cattle guard and stair steps up. most pitches you can see coming. After the false flat that last grind is tough, but short. Then its off to the races.
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Check out this video. Kind of stupid, but gives you a view of the course.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pxxl2CyU3yE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pxxl2CyU3yE
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A descent by yourself or in a small group is completely different than when you are with 100 of your closest friends
That said a big todo was made over descending Lilac at San Luis Rey and it turned out to be not a big deal. esammuli has done the race before so if he says it is sketchy I give that some weight. I did it last year also but I was only with a few guys at the time.
That said a big todo was made over descending Lilac at San Luis Rey and it turned out to be not a big deal. esammuli has done the race before so if he says it is sketchy I give that some weight. I did it last year also but I was only with a few guys at the time.