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Homebrew01 05-22-09 05:00 AM

Giro TT Bikes
 
OK, I missed most of the coverage, so maybe they explained it, but why wasn't Di Luca using aero bars ? Reminded me of Fignon in the TdF without them when Greg had them. And why wasn't everyone using some degree of aero wheel ?

botto 05-22-09 05:06 AM

http://www.cyclingnews.com/road/2009.../profile12.gif

carlfreddy 05-22-09 09:12 AM

But botto, its a time trial! How absurd that anyone would enter a time trial on anything other than a TT bike!

mmmdonuts 05-22-09 09:20 AM

Who in the top ten did not go aero and where did they place?

bdcheung 05-22-09 09:20 AM

I know, right?

http://www.grahamwatson.com/gw/gwonl...v0qymvk-01.jpg

bdcheung 05-22-09 09:21 AM


Originally Posted by mmmdonuts (Post 8965288)
Who in the top ten did not go aero and where did they place?

Dennis Menchov.

First.

Those rims are almost box-section.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/20...079_1_full.jpg

http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/20...IC31528576.jpg

jrennie 05-22-09 09:22 AM

The course was tough but at speeds of 40k/hr TT gear would have helped a lot. DiLuca was dumping time and anything over 14mph would be benefit tt gear.

Homebrew01 05-22-09 09:22 AM

But Menchov had good position on the bike which counts for a lot.

Who else didn't use aero bars ?

I'm just surprised that aero wheels weren't more common. I know they have a bit of a weight penalty, but the high end ones are still pretty light. With a solo ride I'd think the aero benefits would prevail.

wfrogge 05-22-09 09:24 AM


Originally Posted by jrennie (Post 8965301)
The course was tough but at speeds of 40k/hr TT gear would have helped a lot. DiLuca was dumping time and anything over 14mph would be benefit tt gear.

Flying down those "hills" with a TT bike would have been dangerous.

mmmdonuts 05-22-09 09:26 AM

Menchov did have clip ons so that counts as aero.

MitchellH 05-22-09 09:30 AM


Originally Posted by mmmdonuts (Post 8965338)
Menchov did have clip ons so that counts as aero.

Right. There were plenty of straight sections where getting on the clip ons would have had to have provided an aero advantage. I cannot fathom why Di Luca and others wouldn't use any advantage they could. Di Luca still finished in the top 10. Impressive.

jrennie 05-22-09 09:33 AM

he didn't seem to have a problem(other than not enough power)
http://velonews.com/files/images/SASTRE_4.jpg

CyLowe97 05-22-09 09:38 AM

Just think of all the precious aero seconds Denny gave up with that masking tape on the top tube!

mmmdonuts 05-22-09 09:41 AM


Originally Posted by CyLowe97 (Post 8965450)
Just think of all the precious aero seconds Denny gave up with that masking tape on the top tube!

He needed nut padding for his aero tuck.

Homebrew01 05-22-09 09:45 AM


Originally Posted by CyLowe97 (Post 8965450)
Just think of all the precious aero seconds Denny gave up with that masking tape on the top tube!

What's he got on there ?

jrennie 05-22-09 09:50 AM

Gels I think.

bdcheung 05-22-09 09:50 AM

gels

MondoDave 05-22-09 09:57 AM

gel

a day late and a dollar short... again!

WxGuesser 05-22-09 10:15 AM

now don't all you dorks go out buying clip ons... lmao...

ColorChange 05-22-09 10:27 AM

Here is the idea on not pushing aero on this tt I think:

1. There is so much climbing and that light weight bike and wheels are significant. Aero benefits of slow speed climbing are minimal but weight is critical. Road bikes are typically lighter, and so are climbing wheels.
2. The descents are so steep that the aero advantage is largely uneeded and the improved road bike handling is more important.

patentcad 05-22-09 10:39 AM


Originally Posted by ColorChange (Post 8965805)
Here is the idea on not pushing aero on this tt I think:

1. There is so much climbing and that light weight bike and wheels are significant. Aero benefits of slow speed climbing are minimal but weight is critical. Road bikes are typically lighter, and so are climbing wheels.
2. The descents are so steep that the aero advantage is largely uneeded and the improved road bike handling is more important.

Correct.

If Levi didn't have a TT bike, it wasn't called for. Take that to the bank.

bdcheung 05-22-09 10:42 AM


Originally Posted by patentcad (Post 8965870)
Correct.

If Garmin didn't have a TT bike, it wasn't called for. Take that to the bank.

fixed

wfrogge 05-22-09 10:44 AM


Originally Posted by jrennie (Post 8965407)
he didn't seem to have a problem(other than not enough power)
http://velonews.com/files/images/SASTRE_4.jpg

Notice the drop bars?

Homebrew01 05-22-09 10:47 AM

Not much argument that a road bike makes sense on that course. It's the lack of clip-ons that seems odd. Missing out on the chance to go aero when the road permits.

MDcatV 05-22-09 10:47 AM

I'm very disappointed that the bf.net spreadsheet mafia hasnt yet calculated whether di luca should have ridden a tt bike

please dont make me open that wattage board to find out what bike di luca should have chosen!


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