Dominguez to Rock...Again
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Can anyone see him and Bahati butting heads?
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It's making me wonder if Ball has found a sponsor.
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He must really love his family. This like a pro football player saying "ya know what, I'm not really enjoying playing for this pro football team, I think I'll go play for this local squad that's possibly not going to make it through next season".
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I'm guessing it was more related to the fact that while he is a great sprinter, he wasn't able to handle the level of training or racing associated with a ProTour team.
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Originally Posted by Duke of Kent
(Post 9134350)
I'm guessing it was more related to the fact that while he is a great sprinter, he wasn't able to handle the level of training or racing associated with a ProTour team.
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Originally Posted by Duke of Kent
(Post 9134350)
I'm guessing it was more related to the fact that while he is a great sprinter, he wasn't able to handle the level of training or racing associated with a ProTour team.
I don't think Bahati is going to have a problem with Ivan. They get along well and Bahati sounds positive in todays news about him resigning with the pro team. I haven't talked to him off the record but during the winter I talked to him when Ivan was initially going to join the team and he was excited. |
when you are living on the other side of the world, not getting any results how could you not feel homesick and want to go back and do the local thing?
Wife and kids make it an easy choice. AT 23 it would be easier to stick it out, but like ^^ he said 33, not really. |
Originally Posted by Duke of Kent
(Post 9134350)
I'm guessing it was more related to the fact that while he is a great sprinter, he wasn't able to handle the level of training or racing associated with a ProTour team.
who knows? |
One day I was announcing a Florida crit and he lapped the field twice, solo. He was destined for big results. So I interview him afterwards and he tells everyone his big goal is to land in Europe and race the Tour. Not only that, he had no interest in crits and prefers races like Philly.
I believe he truly had dreams of bigger fish, but America is his sweet spot. Pay is good, life is good and managers love him. BTW - I've known him personally since 1999 and knew all the boys that first took him on the road in a beat up bus, in search of contracts. His wins are impressive here in the states, but I have to agree, at 33, I think his big fish goals may have passed him by. Horner tried and passed, but he's on another level. |
rock needs to go away.
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Originally Posted by enjoi07
(Post 9135345)
rock needs to go away.
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Originally Posted by enjoi07
(Post 9135345)
rock needs to go away.
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Originally Posted by enjoi07
(Post 9135345)
rock needs to go away.
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i love bahati, and i think this is going to be good for the team. he's got his own family to support, and now that he is back on rock's a team, he will be doing more racing and potentially getting more income. maybe they'll even push each other to work a little harder, who knows?
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Originally Posted by redal
(Post 9134435)
Ivan has a wife and child here in the states. My brother in law voluntarily left Discovery to come home and race for Toyota in 2006. The only reason was that he missed his wife and kids. He could handle the racing and training but was tired of being gone for 5-7 months out of the year. He realized that he hated doing crits all year which is why he went back to Discovery in 2008. 2008 was difficult for him mentally again.
I bet if the guy is happy with where he's at personally you'll see some great racing from him. As far as Rock goes, I just wish they would go about doing things right. Get a good DS in there and then let him develop a racing team. Even from the outside you can tell that their organization is nill. They have some pretty good talent, but the lack of direction from the top is disappointing. |
Originally Posted by dmotoguy
(Post 9135730)
Why?
Michael Ball dragging Chris Horner through ridiculous contract negotiations. http://velonews.com/article/13787 http://velonews.com/article/13788 Michael Ball with musical bike sponsors http://autobus.cyclingnews.com/news....racing_bikes08 |
Originally Posted by YMCA
(Post 9134893)
BTW - I've known him personally since 1999 and knew all the boys that first took him on the road in a beat up bus, in search of contracts. His wins are impressive here in the states, but I have to agree, at 33, I think his big fish goals may have passed him by. Horner tried and passed, but he's on another level. |
It doesn't affect Bahati in the sense that Ivan will be doing the big races while Rahsaan is still on the amateur squad. It does likely affect Bahati's chances of moving back to the A-team. I believe the two get along fine but they both like being the 'go to' guy at the end.
Ivan just got his citizenship last year so it seems natural he'd not want to stay over in Europe. I think he had a kid last year too. |
Bahati is no longer on the amateur squad...
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Originally Posted by redal
(Post 9137482)
I remember that bus. Danny calls and says, "I'm bringing some guys to do the races in California, I picked up this Cuban guy who is going to break legs. Can we stay with you?" I fell over laughing when they showed up in that bus. I couldn't believe they had driven it all the way from Florida.
Holy poop, I found someone who remembers that bus. I can't recall where Danny found that thing, but he gutted the interior and made beds out of plywood, so everyone could sleep and keep their legs up more often. And yes, we all knew Ivan would tear some legs if someone had some cash and took him on the road. Most of the guys on that team are friends of mine, but only a couple still race. |
Ok, that's a badass story. That's the best kind of bike racing stories. Boot straps kinda stuff.
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Originally Posted by Flatballer
(Post 9137810)
Ok, that's a badass story. That's the best kind of bike racing stories. Boot straps kinda stuff.
I'm in awe! |
Originally Posted by efficiency
(Post 9136896)
Because Michael Ball is a ******bag who doesn't respect a lot of the riders or sponsors.
Michael Ball dragging Chris Horner through ridiculous contract negotiations. http://velonews.com/article/13787 http://velonews.com/article/13788 Michael Ball with musical bike sponsors http://autobus.cyclingnews.com/news....racing_bikes08 |
Originally Posted by YMCA
(Post 9137775)
Holy poop, I found someone who remembers that bus. I can't recall where Danny found that thing, but he gutted the interior and made beds out of plywood, so everyone could sleep and keep their legs up more often.
And yes, we all knew Ivan would tear some legs if someone had some cash and took him on the road. Most of the guys on that team are friends of mine, but only a couple still race. BTW-I am no Rock fan.. I don't like Ivan and I think Ball is bad for the sport, but I raced against them today and Ivan laid it out for Bahati to win. Bahati is a good friend of mine and my wife is good friends with him and his wife. We laughed afterward because people are congratulating him for getting put back on the pro team. HE NEVER SHOULD HAVE BEEN PUT ON THE AMATEUR TEAM. The pro team is where he always belonged. He doesn't want congrats for being demoted and brought back up to the pro team. Ivan nailed it a couple of times and finally Rock lined it up and brought the dangerous break back. Ivan then was instrumental in the leadout and Bahati took the win. |
Originally Posted by Dubbayoo
(Post 9137676)
It doesn't affect Bahati in the sense that Ivan will be doing the big races while Rahsaan is still on the amateur squad. It does likely affect Bahati's chances of moving back to the A-team. I believe the two get along fine but they both like being the 'go to' guy at the end.
Ivan just got his citizenship last year so it seems natural he'd not want to stay over in Europe. I think he had a kid last year too. Rahsaan resigned with the pro squad Friday, the day after Ivan resigned with Rock. I had a front row seat to Ivan riding his nutz off to help Bahati win today. I think next week will be interesting. |
Originally Posted by redal
(Post 9143419)
I think I've talked with you about this before. I've seen Dan L. a couple of times since then at Superweek, masters Natz and elite natz. I raced against Ivan today and Danny B. called me years ago for a reference for the INS. My favorite guy out of that group was Mike Z. I've only seen him once since they came out in 2000. The bus looked like an airport shuttle but I remember the inside having a locked cage. It was some kind of prison transport or something.
Dan L is running the Jittery Joes outfit this year and watches his wife rock the pro's. Danny B. INS? All I know is that Danny threw his back and was never the same, so he took off for New Orleans never to be heard from again. That guy won on sheer will. |
Originally Posted by redal
(Post 9143431)
I think next week will be interesting.
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You are right on that my friend, this is Ivan Dominguez getting back at you. What happen in Europe I never told any one because is no point to create more problems that the one that I had when I was over there.
On top of that I have a family to take care and to be with, I was never interested on going over there but that is when Fuji the company called me offering a good contract for me to go there because was going to be good for them and they need my support. Any ways, I did just the 2nd half of the season with RR and everything was good between Ball and my self but I was not planing on staying there for another season, too many problems that people didn't see back then. |
Ivan resurrecting a thread devoted to his 2009 comeback.
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