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Training races - what should I work on?

Old 08-22-09, 02:51 PM
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Training races - what should I work on?

Does anybody go to a training race with an objective other than winning? Any ideas on what to work on in a training race?
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Old 08-22-09, 02:55 PM
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Attacking, trying to organize a break, bridging up to breaks after I've missed them. I then find myself getting tossed otb and then I'l try to get back on as I'm lapped. pretty much kicking my own a**.

Have you done any of the Sunday am crits in Raleigh? I'm planning on maybe next weekend.
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Old 08-22-09, 03:00 PM
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Team tactics.

Its basically just a race with a little less bloodyminded aggresion, which ideally results in a safer race -- but ideals are just that, ideas, not reality. So just treat it like a race.
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Work on whatever is your weakness.

Duh.
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Originally Posted by wanders View Post
Attacking, trying to organize a break, bridging up to breaks after I've missed them. I then find myself getting tossed otb and then I'l try to get back on as I'm lapped. pretty much kicking my own a**.

Have you done any of the Sunday am crits in Raleigh? I'm planning on maybe next weekend.
c'mon out tomorrow AM; i did the first one in the C race; i'll be in the B race tomorrow AM; next races 9/6 and 9/20
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Old 08-22-09, 04:46 PM
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choo choo train
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Sprint with a mile to go and try and TT off of the front for a solo.

1) The initial sprint will improve your sprint.
2) The TT will improve your ability to stay at high output.
3) Seeing everyone close on you every week will motivate you to sprint harder and TT harder until you are strong enough to actually pull it off.

It is a training race, so who cares. Once you have that fitness, then work on your real race tactics, like when is the best time to sprint - which you will be able to win, because you were working harder and longer than everyone else trying to win the training races by waiting for their time to sprint.
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I had an amazing DFL in a training race a few weeks back. Did some tag-team attacking with a teammate (he was the one to go with one lap left). Then I blocked for him. Then I busted up the leadout train of the rival team getting set to sprint for second (behind said teammate) by starting a leadout train of my own. Suicide mission at 35 mph, but we got way in front of them. Pulled off with 500m to go.

result: team won. rival team only managed third place. I was DFL, but very happy.
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Originally Posted by mikerhymeswith View Post
Does anybody go to a training race with an objective other than winning? Any ideas on what to work on in a training race?
Work on what you need to work on. If you have planned training then follow the plan. If that means a suicide early break, or dropping out with two to go, then do it.
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pack positioning, navigation, and recovering while you're hurting/still going fast. knowing how to do those things saves gobs of watts that you can use when you need them.

other than that, attack, attack, attack, and then attack some more.
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Old 08-23-09, 12:36 PM
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i tried to following the advice above

i attacked once out of corner four; i was OTF and one guy went with me; turns out as we cross the line the prime bell rings; i completely forgot about the prime by the time I crossed the line again; we were gruppo compacto soon after that

i lfound one of my weaknesses: lose race awareness in a hard effort

i worked on cornering in a race pack; in a left turn i shifted weight to right foot in 6 o'clock position to get better traction; worked wonderfully

worked on holding my line in corners; i visualized the line by looking ahead and followed that line

i knew my position was poor in the last lap, but i knew i probably didn't have the watts, desire, or opportunity to change it by much so i accepted my mid pack finish...until i turned corner 4; i wound up a sprint and overtook 3 riders; i threw my bike (kind of) at the line and missed overtaking a 4th rider by 10-20 cm

this was my first cat 3/4 race; placed 13th

one thing i noticed was a lot of recovery laps that were just downright slow; next time i'll try attacking more

other weaknesses I found are holding a wheel and taking a wheel
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I try to avoid being pack fodder, sitting in and sprinting miserably.

It's a training race, the result is irrelevant, it's about how you race and learning new ways to race.

Be aggressive, get into breaks, if the break is going to fail make sure to get back on when you get caught, take a breather then go again.
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I suck at crits, so I signed up for a 5 race training series of them. At the end I will still suck at crits, but I hope that I suck a lot less than I do now.
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