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The new PT head unit - The Joule

Old 08-31-09, 12:54 PM
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The new PT head unit - The Joule


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Finally, something better than the current headunit.

This thing is gonna be 'spensive, though.
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Old 08-31-09, 01:02 PM
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Looks vaguely familar.
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Old 08-31-09, 01:34 PM
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Looks huge...does it double as a lap top?
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Old 08-31-09, 01:38 PM
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The good thing about the current head unit was the size. Why must all of the ANT+ computers be so huge? Why!?
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Old 08-31-09, 01:41 PM
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I hope they finally included the NP and TSS data.
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I thought NP and TSS were WKO+ - specific algorithms /terms.
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They are, but they can be licensed, i.e. Ergomo had it.
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NP and TSS aren't Lim-friendly...
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And there's the other issue. I can't imagine that Cycleops, who has their own "software" would offer that option.
Now, we all know that WKO+ is the superior product, but I just don't see Cycleops playing nice. I wish Garmin or another 3rd party would get off their ass and do it though.
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everyone has their own software.

SRM, Ergomo and Saris all packaged their powermeters with different software.

though, ergomo shipped their units with WKO+ as I recall.
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Old 08-31-09, 02:27 PM
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Ergomo was designed by Hunter Allen of WKO+. It's very close if not identical.

What I meant was that I don't see Cycleops including a display metric that you have to use someone else's software to use/understand.
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Originally Posted by El Diablo Rojo View Post
Looks huge...does it double as a lap top?
From what I've seen on other forums it's actually just slightly larger than the current yellow model. I think the packaging is a bit deceiving.
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All these new fangled gadgets and products are pointless... All you need is a 14-15lb carbon bike, zipp 404's, a plain ol ANT+ Powertap, and some Assos bibs to get the basic training done... This thing is just overkill.
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Originally Posted by esammuli View Post
From what I've seen on other forums it's actually just slightly larger than the current yellow model. I think the packaging is a bit deceiving.
Looks pretty big to me.

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Old 08-31-09, 03:35 PM
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All these new fangled gadgets and products are pointless... All you need is a 14-15lb carbon bike, zipp 404's, a plain ol ANT+ Powertap, and some Assos bibs to get the basic training done... This thing is just overkill.
Don't forget carbon valve stem nuts.
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Why in Lord's name do you need TSS / pNorm during the ride?
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Why in Lord's name do you need TSS / pNorm during the ride?
I wouldn't mind having it... but you're right.
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Originally Posted by NomadVW View Post
Why in Lord's name do you need TSS / pNorm during the ride?
**** measuring contest while still on the bike, obviously.

Although I could guesstimate it, I go out sometimes looking for prescribed amounts of TSS to get my CTL up. It would just be nice to have.
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I do the same thing, regarding going looking for TSS. Yesterday I went out looking for 150, misjudged my effort, and came up way short at 110. If I had known that while I was out, I probably would've dropped off my friends and kept riding.

I'm getting better at estimating it based on effort, but it's pretty hard to do.
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Originally Posted by cslone View Post
**** measuring contest while still on the bike, obviously.

Although I could guesstimate it, I go out sometimes looking for prescribed amounts of TSS to get my CTL up. It would just be nice to have.
If you are riding enough to care about your CTL, you should know roughly how much tss each ride will equate to..
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NP would be nice to see how close you are from blowing up in a RR.
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joule. heh.
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NP would be nice to see how close you are from blowing up in a RR.
If you don't know how close you are to blowing up, you're not close.
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Originally Posted by dmotoguy View Post
If you are riding enough to care about your CTL, you should know roughly how much tss each ride will equate to..
I do typically, but for example, one ride that normally puts me right at 100 had a tailwind one day so I came up a little short at 89. Not a big deal at all, but I would have ridden a little longer to hit that 100 if I had it in real time. Again, not a necessity, just nice to have.
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