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Pain (not the good kind)

Old 12-08-09, 06:27 PM
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Pain (not the good kind)

I've been off the bike for nearly a month.

The first 2 weeks were by choice (mental break) and the last two were from neck pain and radiating pain down my left shoulder and arm and numbness.

I've been here before. Sounds like nerve compression.

Went to the Doc, got some X-rays and found out my spine was a series of S-curves. Fine. Let's work it out with some physio. Then on to some core stability work. Not good but I can work through it.

Pull, stretch, traction, crack, pull some more and another series of X-rays.

Doc says, "Huh. Maybe you should see this guy. He's a Neurosurgeon."

Crap.

One day in a hospital, 1 MRI and the new Doc says, "Well yes, there is some herniation but it should be giving you trouble on your right side. I'm not sure why your left side is weaker and has all this pain. Here's some drugs and come back on Thursday for some really painful tests on your nerves and muscles."

And, "Oh yeah, stay off the bike. Stay OFF the bike. No riding."

I have my first 140km RR 22 Jan. Then another one 28 Feb. I have an "A" SR in early April.

Stay off the bike...

Where'd I put that stupid trainer?
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Old 12-08-09, 07:10 PM
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Ya know Bob...sometimes we are own worst enemy's.
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Sympathy. But on the bright side:


Of course the great irony of this is Victor Conti of BALCO fame was a founding member of TOP.
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Sympathy. But on the bright side:


Of course the great irony of this is Victor Conti of BALCO fame was a founding member of TOP.
Hope they figure stuff out soon man.

I'm waiting from a call from the doc as well.
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Old 12-08-09, 09:40 PM
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Sucks. There's not much worse than being told to get off the bike (unless someone's saying it from a car).
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It's nothing to play around with. I have permanenet nerve damage from old injuries. About the only good thing about it is a built in excuse for those off days when you were barely hanging in the nuetral zone, or found yourself off the back while still on the trainer an hour before start time.

Listen to the doc and try and do what they say. It would suck to turn a short term injury into a season long ordeal, or worse.
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Originally Posted by txvintage View Post
It's nothing to play around with. I have permanenet nerve damage from old injuries. About the only good thing about it is a built in excuse for those off days when you were barely hanging in the nuetral zone, or found yourself off the back while still on the trainer an hour before start time.

Listen to the doc and try and do what they say. It would suck to turn a short term injury into a season long ordeal, or worse.
There you go talkin' sense again...
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Old 12-09-09, 06:10 AM
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There you go talkin' sense again...
When you've had it told to you as many times as I have it's almost a conditioned response
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Old 12-09-09, 07:00 AM
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Let me preface what I'm about to say with: It may not work for anyone else.
I had serious neck and shoulder pain a couple of months ago. On the right side of my shoulder that radiated down my arm. It hurt like hell for weeks. I couldn't turn my head or lift my arm but so high. I could feel a lot of crackling and popping around the upper part of my back and between my shoulder blades.

Sometime after I was starting to take more naps at work. You know, for recovery purposes. I would come to work a little early after an early AM training ride and lay down on the floor with a pillow. I would again do the same thing in the afternoon - around lunch. I would lay flat on my back with a pillow under my head. That's it. Within 2 weeks the pain around my neck was completely gone. I had no more popping or cracking sounds. I still take a nap at least 3 times a week at work. I really think it helped me.
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Let me preface what I'm about to say with: It may not work for anyone else.
I had serious neck and shoulder pain a couple of months ago. On the right side of my shoulder that radiated down my arm. It hurt like hell for weeks. I couldn't turn my head or lift my arm but so high. I could feel a lot of crackling and popping around the upper part of my back and between my shoulder blades.

Sometime after I was starting to take more naps at work. You know, for recovery purposes. I would come to work a little early after an early AM training ride and lay down on the floor with a pillow. I would again do the same thing in the afternoon - around lunch. I would lay flat on my back with a pillow under my head. That's it. Within 2 weeks the pain around my neck was completely gone. I had no more popping or cracking sounds. I still take a nap at least 3 times a week at work. I really think it helped me.
What you're describing sound exactly like the problem I am having.

I'll add to my regime. Napping sure couldn't hurt.
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Old 12-09-09, 08:03 AM
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What you're describing sound exactly like the problem I am having.

I'll add to my regime. Napping sure couldn't hurt.
But it was on a hard floor. Not sure if that made the difference.
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BDop, doctors are almost always over cautious.
Athletes are much more in tune with their bodies than the average Joe, so if YOU feel the trainer is okay, then have at it.
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Nap intervals. Finally a plan I can embrace.
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Old 12-09-09, 09:40 AM
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Nap intervals. Finally a plan I can embrace.
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Naps and added protein have really made me feel better overall.
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I've known a few MC racers who have had neck and upper back issues. Some of them swear by inversion therapy. Might be another option to look into if it's OK by your doc.
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Originally Posted by Racer Ex View Post
Sympathy. But on the bright side:


Of course the great irony of this is Victor Conti of BALCO fame was a founding member of TOP.
DANG! Being an old trumpet player from way back I really enjoyed that. Love me some TOP!

Hoping for the best for you Bob
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Sympathy. But on the bright side:

[vid eo=youtube;vh5YoFy8pSQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vh5YoFy8pSQ&feature=related[/ video]

Of course the great irony of this is Victor Conti of BALCO fame was a founding member of TOP.
I've seen these guys twice at the Filmore...great shows.
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Not that I am YOUR doctor, but I can say that I heard a friend say whose friend said (and HE was a doctor) that if you had a problem like this, there are a number of ways to get better. But, since you obviously need to keep up race fitness, he might say that the trainer is ok as long as you can keep your head over your shoulders. What that would mean is that you would either ride the trainer no-handed sitting upright, or you would find yourself a recumbent that also allowed you to keep your head over your shoulders and not leaning forward. Of course, this is all just rumor and hearsay, but if you want to get more hearsay, send me a PM.
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Old 12-09-09, 12:42 PM
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Bob, consider that lack of exercise can also be a contributing factor to various problems and pains... even if you don't ride, you should find a way to get aerobic otherwise.
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So what's the word BDop?
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So what's the word BDop?
MRI inconclusive.

It suggests that I may have mild symptoms on my right side (which I don't) but doesn't explain why I have pain, weakness and numbness on my left side.

More test are in the works.

Meanwhile I will start some core work and try to find a trainer to ride.
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Old 12-13-09, 07:58 PM
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Update.

Going to physio and now I'm wearing one of those lawyer collars around my neck!

I told the woman at the hospital that I look like a bad dog.


She didn't get it...




Then I explained it...





I don't think it's funny in Chinese...
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Lol.

Good luck with the PT.
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Update.

Going to physio and now I'm wearing one of those lawyer collars around my neck!

I told the woman at the hospital that I look like a bad dog.


She didn't get it...




Then I explained it...





I don't think it's funny in Chinese...
Prolly because a bad dog is one that's over cooked?

Any good chiropractors around? They can do a very good job if you find the right one. I had an issue with a compressed disc that would cause leg weakness and numbing in my Right foot. Once a week manipulation really helped. You could clearly see the difference on an xray.
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