What do you practice at a practice race?
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I'm not second guessing your guy BTW. Just throwing that out there.
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According to a popular legend the two-fingers salute and/or V sign derives from the gestures of longbowmen fighting in the English army at the Battle of Agincourt (1415) during the Hundred Years' War.[4][15] The story claims that the French claimed that they would cut off the arrow-shooting fingers of all the English longbowmen after they had won the battle at Agincourt. But the English came out victorious and showed off their two fingers, still intact. <lifted from wikipedia and thus acknowledged as a weak reference
Please educate me.
Please educate me.
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Wouldn't have been my call, not sure there's much if any benefit there. But I don't know how much time between sessions and what your plan looks like, so that's just an initial reaction. There's so much variability in sitting in, you're allowing the race to dictate effort level. I pass on a lot of our weekday stuff because it doesn't fit into my schedule and I'm not good at staying put when there's a break going off.
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According to a popular legend the two-fingers salute and/or V sign derives from the gestures of longbowmen fighting in the English army at the Battle of Agincourt (1415) during the Hundred Years' War.[4][15] The story claims that the French claimed that they would cut off the arrow-shooting fingers of all the English longbowmen after they had won the battle at Agincourt. But the English came out victorious and showed off their two fingers, still intact. <lifted from wikipedia and thus acknowledged as a weak reference
Please educate me.
Please educate me.
It is especially suspect because it shares significant similarities with an apocryphal tale of where the expression "f**k you" comes from. The story goes basically that the English taunted the French by saying they could still "pluck yew," referring to being able fire longbows. It's entirely silly, especially given that the history of the F word (I hate the phrasing, but board censors and all ) shows it was well-established long before then. The story you tell is also silly, rather implausible, and lacks historical evidence. It's a popular story, but that's it. Where does it actually come from? I don't know, but it's probably a lot older than the Hundred Years War (the one-finger salute certainly is).
Not that its origin is especially relevant or anything. What were we talking about again?
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Tonight my practice was signing in, pinning on the numbers, warming up, and then running for the car as the thunder and lightning hit and washed out our practice crit :-(
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apologies for the derail.
...and thanks for the knowledge Grolby.
In a training race? I generally ride with folks a few cats up and try like hell to hang on. It makes my "real" crits feel easier. In our local TNWs it seems that the fast kids practice attacking and others (regardless of team) will work together to bridge or bring it back depending on situation. There are points available at these races but I have not witnessed team tactics in use to protect a rider in a break. There is definitely plenty of practice yelling at others about choice of lines, handling skills, etc...
...and thanks for the knowledge Grolby.
In a training race? I generally ride with folks a few cats up and try like hell to hang on. It makes my "real" crits feel easier. In our local TNWs it seems that the fast kids practice attacking and others (regardless of team) will work together to bridge or bring it back depending on situation. There are points available at these races but I have not witnessed team tactics in use to protect a rider in a break. There is definitely plenty of practice yelling at others about choice of lines, handling skills, etc...
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Practice mental tom foolery. While on the start line waiting for the "go" ask or tell those around you:
Hmm your tires look a bit low.
Looks like your back brake pad is rubbing.
Does that derailleur hanger look a bit bent.
etc.
etc.
etc.
Give them something to think about while you are planning your winning strategy.
Oh yeah your back wheel looks a bit tweaked...
Hmm your tires look a bit low.
Looks like your back brake pad is rubbing.
Does that derailleur hanger look a bit bent.
etc.
etc.
etc.
Give them something to think about while you are planning your winning strategy.
Oh yeah your back wheel looks a bit tweaked...
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Practice race.
That said, it all rolls off (me anyway) except behaviours compromising
safety.
Unfortunately, our local has no safety program - no introduction for newbies, very little discussion (none formal) w/regard to safety, no review process, no clinic, no mentoring. There is some informal mentoring, and some of it is appropriate (that is, correct).
That the lapped contest sprints and the finish is usually not a safety issue, however frikkin' lame.
The guy who ducks out to hide in the parking lot and comes out when the bell rings for d' prime, heh, heh-heh, heh-heh-heh...
Excepting when Yuba City group comes up, we're all on the same "team," even then, it's still only cliques/friends who won't work to chase their pals; there is some complaining, which is funny as hell.
Back to the point then, I practice; I'm especially interested in extending my strengths (such as they are), and building on my weaknesses.
Time for breakfast!
That said, it all rolls off (me anyway) except behaviours compromising
safety.
Unfortunately, our local has no safety program - no introduction for newbies, very little discussion (none formal) w/regard to safety, no review process, no clinic, no mentoring. There is some informal mentoring, and some of it is appropriate (that is, correct).
That the lapped contest sprints and the finish is usually not a safety issue, however frikkin' lame.
The guy who ducks out to hide in the parking lot and comes out when the bell rings for d' prime, heh, heh-heh, heh-heh-heh...
Excepting when Yuba City group comes up, we're all on the same "team," even then, it's still only cliques/friends who won't work to chase their pals; there is some complaining, which is funny as hell.
Back to the point then, I practice; I'm especially interested in extending my strengths (such as they are), and building on my weaknesses.
Time for breakfast!
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Another thing that you shouldn't try at a practice race is riding your electric bike.
Thursday night Fiesta Island in San Diego. Usually a good crowd of about 70-80 with speeds averaging 27-29. Some guy shows up tonight on his electric bike and starts racing with the pack. It was a road bike frame so it was difficult to spot at first. But some of the regulars saw it and let him know he wasn't welcome. He didn't understand why everyone was pissed at first but then backed off when he realized he was probably going to end up in the sand.
If I search the electric bike forums I can probably find him ranting about the road nazis & Lance wannabees at Fiesta Island.
Thursday night Fiesta Island in San Diego. Usually a good crowd of about 70-80 with speeds averaging 27-29. Some guy shows up tonight on his electric bike and starts racing with the pack. It was a road bike frame so it was difficult to spot at first. But some of the regulars saw it and let him know he wasn't welcome. He didn't understand why everyone was pissed at first but then backed off when he realized he was probably going to end up in the sand.
If I search the electric bike forums I can probably find him ranting about the road nazis & Lance wannabees at Fiesta Island.
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I used to love riding that evening race/ride on Fiesta Island in the early 80's. We didn't have electric bikes but had to watch out for cars pulling out since the course wasn't cleared.
Another thing that you shouldn't try at a practice race is riding your electric bike.
Thursday night Fiesta Island in San Diego. Usually a good crowd of about 70-80 with speeds averaging 27-29. Some guy shows up tonight on his electric bike and starts racing with the pack. It was a road bike frame so it was difficult to spot at first. But some of the regulars saw it and let him know he wasn't welcome. He didn't understand why everyone was pissed at first but then backed off when he realized he was probably going to end up in the sand.
If I search the electric bike forums I can probably find him ranting about the road nazis & Lance wannabees at Fiesta Island.
Thursday night Fiesta Island in San Diego. Usually a good crowd of about 70-80 with speeds averaging 27-29. Some guy shows up tonight on his electric bike and starts racing with the pack. It was a road bike frame so it was difficult to spot at first. But some of the regulars saw it and let him know he wasn't welcome. He didn't understand why everyone was pissed at first but then backed off when he realized he was probably going to end up in the sand.
If I search the electric bike forums I can probably find him ranting about the road nazis & Lance wannabees at Fiesta Island.
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Last night I practiced getting 3rd. Wrong gear in the sprint and I spun out. I really need to work on gear changing/selection while sprinting.
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