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Old 05-10-10, 12:20 PM
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The short course at the Driveway is SWEET. On the long "Grand Prix" course, I'm more inclined to agree with Botto. Still, it's always a good time - it's a well-run event. Holland Racing really knows how to put on a race!
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Originally Posted by Racer Ex
It's actually pretty technical if you ride it fast enough, at least some of the routes, if you're a good bike handler you can gap in the corners. Better than most industrial park crits.
will have to take your word for it.
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Old 05-10-10, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by botto
will have to take your word for it.
You can stay at my place when you visit.
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pick up some extra oreos.
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Originally Posted by waterrockets
Yep, 70 racers at 30mph on this course, when they run it CCW, leaves the back half of the pack surging at 700-900W every single time out of the Turn 7.

do you have to bunny hop that big L?

i have fun at boring courses. our local weekday crit series is a circle with a hill, and we have a bunch of stupid IP crits, i have fun at all of them, although I dont really circle any on the calender the way i do a few of the more technically demanding crits or road races.
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Old 05-10-10, 12:52 PM
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pick up some extra oreos.
Noted.

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do you have to bunny hop that big L?
Well, you don't have to.
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Old 05-10-10, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Creakyknees
I meant, the quality of the fields. Faster guys / harder racers.

I readily concede that the Driveway is a far better venue, and a much more professionally promoted race.
Well, I haven't raced at the event in Dallas. We do get guys like Benz in there, who a couple years ago won the state time trial and crit (and road?) championships, and Korioth, who was the national 40+ champ. Not to mention UCI pro's like Pat McCarty. Then throw in Wenger, Rothe....the field at the Driveway seems to me to be a pretty competitive event.
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nice pics. i really enjoyed the two early season races here in Chicagoland that took place on autobahn type race tracks. later.
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Originally Posted by botto
racing on car tracks = beyond boring.
Your statement=incorrect
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Originally Posted by El Diablo Rojo
Your statement=incorrect
Yes, but he hates anything even remotely connected with car racing, so it fits in with his dogma. Forget what you've heard about Sea Otter or the TTT at Road Atlanta for the Tour of Georgia, if Botto says racing a bike on a car track sucks, it sucks.

I watched guys race at Portland several times. No way to join in except a BMX pit bike. I don't think I could have hung in there. That place would seem to be about like an industrial park...pretty flat and not too tricky. Road America, or better yet, Mosport, could make for some great bike racing.
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Boring? - this isn't some stupid oval race track. It's a LeMans style track with lots of sweeping turns, twists, and even a bit of elevation change. No curbs, no parked cars and no pot holes. Just pristine asphalt. You must really be enamored with your snoz if you like looking down your nose at something like this.
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Originally Posted by El Diablo Rojo
Your statement=incorrect
to each their own.

Originally Posted by Fat Boy
Yes, but he hates anything even remotely connected with car racing, so it fits in with his dogma. Forget what you've heard about Sea Otter or the TTT at Road Atlanta for the Tour of Georgia, if Botto says racing a bike on a car track sucks, it sucks.

I watched guys race at Portland several times. No way to join in except a BMX pit bike. I don't think I could have hung in there. That place would seem to be about like an industrial park...pretty flat and not too tricky. Road America, or better yet, Mosport, could make for some great bike racing
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They have any races on F1 tracks in Mokum???

That would be badass!
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I gotta feeling that The Driveway is going to change the name of The Botto Championship trophy for the November series leader.
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For clarification..the Driveway is more of a long Kart track than a car track. It's very tight, not a course I'd drive an FC car on...I doubt you'd get an FA up to speed enough to even use the ground effects. This would be a great Road Race course for shifters or even maybe IC/E karts.
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Originally Posted by ridethecliche
They have any races on F1 tracks in Mokum???

That would be badass!
Some would be good and some would not. Spa-Francorchamps racetrack in (where else?) Belgium would be a hellacious circuit race with a couple hundred meters of climbing per lap. They, quite literally, don't make them like this any more.

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Originally Posted by El Diablo Rojo
For clarification..the Driveway is more of a long Kart track than a car track. It's very tight, not a course I'd drive an FC car on...I doubt you'd get an FA up to speed enough to even use the ground effects. This would be a great Road Race course for shifters or even maybe IC/E karts.
Trust me, I've tried to justify a test day on the back 1/2 of a week there. I just can't do it with a straight face.
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duh.
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Originally Posted by Fat Boy
Trust me, I've tried to justify a test day on the back 1/2 of a week there. I just can't do it with a straight face.
It would be a waste of time and money..and you are right Mosport would make for a great bike race.
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Originally Posted by Fat Boy
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an obese redneck doesn't like me. my day is ruined.
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an obese redneck doesn't like me. my day is ruined.
hey now.
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We get the oppurtunity to race on the Mid Ohio Sports Car Course twice a year. It's a blast and can be very challenging when it is windy. I always chukle when watching car races on TV and they have to brake hard to make the roundhouse turn at the top of the long hill.
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Old 05-11-10, 12:46 PM
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pocono infield is pretty tight. there is one turn where pedaling is iffy.
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Old 05-11-10, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Grumpy McTrumpy
pocono infield is pretty tight. there is one turn where pedaling is iffy.
Watkins Glen would be a fun in New York. One corner that might be tight on a bike, especially since it's preceded by a long, gradual descent. A fast group would be going maybe 35-40mph at that point. Total there would be about 200 feet of elevation change per 3.4 mile lap. The last mile or so of a race there would be pretty tough although the sprint would be slightly down-bubble.
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Old 05-11-10, 01:56 PM
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there is supposed to be a crit there this summer. no details yet.

it was the Corning Circuit Race, but Corning Inc. is repaving their park, so the word is that it will be at Watkins Glen.
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