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Old 06-29-10, 12:08 PM
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Had my first bike on car incident yesterday. This poor older woman was going through an intersection between a side street with a stop sign and a main street with a little 3 foot shoulder.

I was in the shoulder on the main road and she decided to pull out to cross the main street onto the opposing side street and did not see me at all. i grabbed a handful of brakes started to go over the bike and somehow ended up smashing into her passenger door, basically t-boned her car with my shoulder and hip... then found myself on the ground still clipped in

I am damn lucky I did not hit the hood or trunk because I would have gone FLYING. I also thought she might run my head over with her rear wheels after I hit her. It's amazing how quickly it happens.

Bike was ok - only the rear part of the seat is scuffed up. New ZIPPs ok. I got up and did an all out 03'30" after that (my planned workout - trying to get a baseline for 3km training), at a nice all time high and then limped home. I am a bit sore and have some nice rash but otherwise all good
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Old 06-29-10, 12:13 PM
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Glad youre ok...

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if i was thinking about racing when i got hit. does that count?
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Old 06-29-10, 12:25 PM
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Glad you're ok. I hit an old lady the same way 19 years ago, but I was doing 35...
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Did you get her info? In case you find something on the bike later...

Glad you came out ok
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if i was thinking about racing when i got hit. does that count?
Fine by me but generally not for the pedantics.
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Fine by me but generally not for the pedants.
Fixed. I couldn't resist that one.
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Originally Posted by pjcampbell View Post
Had my first bike on car incident yesterday. This poor older woman was going through an intersection between a side street with a stop sign and a main street with a little 3 foot shoulder.

I was in the shoulder on the main road and she decided to pull out to cross the main street onto the opposing side street and did not see me at all. i grabbed a handful of brakes started to go over the bike and somehow ended up smashing into her passenger door, basically t-boned her car with my shoulder and hip... then found myself on the ground still clipped in

I am damn lucky I did not hit the hood or trunk because I would have gone FLYING. I also thought she might run my head over with her rear wheels after I hit her. It's amazing how quickly it happens.

Bike was ok - only the rear part of the seat is scuffed up. New ZIPPs ok. I got up and did an all out 03'30" after that (my planned workout - trying to get a baseline for 3km training), at a nice all time high and then limped home. I am a bit sore and have some nice rash but otherwise all good
it's cool to grab a handful, just know how to do it.

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Originally Posted by enjoi07 View Post
it's cool to grab a handful, just know how to do it.

I feel sorry for whoever had to wash those bibs.
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Originally Posted by Doohickie View Post
Fine by me but generally not for the pedantics.
Are you lost?
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Best part about that picture is the bar-end plug in mid-flight. Dunno why, but that's where my eye is drawn.
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Originally Posted by enjoi07 View Post
it's cool to grab a handful, just know how to do it.

What happens when you put the side of a car in front of a guy doing that? You might not endo, but it seems to me the saddle is not in a good position for a front impact.
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What happens when you put the side of a car in front of a guy doing that? You might not endo, but it seems to me the saddle is not in a good position for a front impact.
The reference is to the Rabo guy slamming on the brakes but his weight is behind the saddle, thus no endo. Excellent example of weight shifting for sudden braking!
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Originally Posted by jefferee View Post
Fixed. I couldn't resist that one.
Ouch. Ya got me.

Even as I wrote that I was thinking it didn't look right but didn't feel like looking it up.
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The reference is to the Rabo guy slamming on the brakes but his weight is behind the saddle, thus no endo. Excellent example of weight shifting for sudden braking!
This does not answer my question. You just verbalize the part of the picture that I understand as relevant to the OP's situation but not the part that isn't: What happens when you are hanging off the back of the saddle and then you come to a sudden stop caused by the car? This assumes that you are able to scrub a lot of speed before impact but that you won't stop no matter how good your braking technique. Perhaps the endo/slide/twist that happened to the OP wasn't so bad.
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Originally Posted by aicabsolut View Post
This does not answer my question. You just verbalize the part of the picture that I understand as relevant to the OP's situation but not the part that isn't: What happens when you are hanging off the back of the saddle and then you come to a sudden stop caused by the car? This assumes that you are able to scrub a lot of speed before impact but that you won't stop no matter how good your braking technique. Perhaps the endo/slide/twist that happened to the OP wasn't so bad.
what do you think happens. you take a saddle to the groin. you don't necessarily have to be that far back though.
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it's cool to grab a handful, just know how to do it.

Is that HH on the left?
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Cool, do I get a prize or something? =]

a) what race was that?
b) was the crash caused by the rolled tire on the right?
c) did rabbo make it through?

(OP, sorry you got hit, btw, sucks)
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i did get her info, actually she ended up filing a police report herself. the cops called me later to get it on record. she was very concerned about me and i was very concerned about my new ZIPP wheel ha ha

i dont think i had time for the weight shift... maybe if it was a natural instinct but yeah i can imagine groin behind the seat could have hurt a lot more if i couldnt avoid impact.
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Cool, do I get a prize or something? =]

a) what race was that?
b) was the crash caused by the rolled tire on the right?
c) did rabbo make it through?

(OP, sorry you got hit, btw, sucks)
well, you see, haussler noticed that some riders bar end had popped out on the course. he then decided to sacrifice himself to save the precious bar end from being crushed by the peloton. as you can see in the photo he is in mid catch. the ag2 rider saw hausslers glasses and decided to try and go after them.

or maybe cav ran into haussler during the sprint, and then has a spitty hissy fit. either way haussler wanted that bar end.

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Oh that crash, yeah I saw that one. For some reason I thought that was an old photo.
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Originally Posted by aicabsolut View Post
This does not answer my question. You just verbalize the part of the picture that I understand as relevant to the OP's situation but not the part that isn't: What happens when you are hanging off the back of the saddle and then you come to a sudden stop caused by the car? This assumes that you are able to scrub a lot of speed before impact but that you won't stop no matter how good your braking technique. Perhaps the endo/slide/twist that happened to the OP wasn't so bad.
Ah I see. Depending on speed, I would have used a defensive maneuver to quickly counter-steer to travel in the same direction of the car. You might still lay it down of course - it takes practice to be able to do these things out of instinct. At least for me :x
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