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Old 07-04-10, 07:16 AM
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fun level as a function of racers

i find that i derive maximum enjoyment from races of around only 25-30 guys. races of 100+ people aren't really that fun for me. what about you peeps?
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Old 07-04-10, 07:17 AM
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Opposite.
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Old 07-04-10, 07:32 AM
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How many people are back there?
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Old 07-04-10, 08:52 AM
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How many people are back there?
Geez, no love for the folks contributing to the purse?
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Old 07-04-10, 08:56 AM
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I'm with Gstein, I like a pretty large field, particularly in road races.
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Old 07-04-10, 09:12 AM
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yup. large fields are WAY more fun.
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Old 07-04-10, 09:32 AM
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From the races I've done, I've had more fun when the fields are larger.
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Old 07-04-10, 10:17 AM
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Geez, no love for the folks contributing to the purse?
Much love
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Old 07-04-10, 12:00 PM
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How many people are back there?
Well generally you've got 3-5 teammates after that does it really matter?

Crits: as long as they are pulling the lapped riders and I didn't eff up and start at the back numbers don't matter.

Road Races: as long as I didn't eff up and start at the back number don't matter.
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Old 07-04-10, 01:10 PM
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wrt the OP:

Crits: Agree. Nothing I hate more than a field of 50+ on some tiny ass crash fest crit course. I'm just a 4 btw.

Road Races: Disagree
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If I am stuck at the back of a large pack that's tootling along waiting for the bunch sprint, it's pretty much a waste of time for me.
If I am near the front I don't care how many riders are behind me as long as they stay back there. I'm not that good at moving up so a flat race with a large field is more likely to be the former than the latter. So I don't do them.
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Old 07-04-10, 08:40 PM
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I like a big field.
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Depends how much and how quickly the field breaks up. It's cool to have multiple packs spread out along the course, but it can suck when the pack gets too big.
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The more, the merrier.
Only way we'll see 100+ here is with a P123 field though. 35-60 is the norm.
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Crits - big fields mean more shelter, more fresh legs to chase, and a higher chance of a field sprint. That's good for me.

I prefer fields of up to about 100-110. After that it gets unwieldy. That's on a 1k to 1 mile course. I've done 0.5 mi, 8 turns, 125 racers, in the rain - that was kind of hectic.

Subtract 40 if certain racers show up from Brooklyn. Literally only 5 or so guys on that list - they really make a race dangerous.

Add 30 if exclusively NJ, CT, RI, most MA, and points further north.

I don't do road races but it the longer the field can stretch out, the longer it takes for me to get dropped. I'd prefer a 1000 rider field if possible I could possibly get a pack finish that way, which, I have to admit, I don't think I've ever done.

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Originally Posted by carpediemracing View Post
Crits - big fields mean more shelter, more fresh legs to chase, and a higher chance of a field sprint. That's good for me.

I prefer fields of up to about 100-110. After that it gets unwieldy. That's on a 1k to 1 mile course. I've done 0.5 mi, 8 turns, 125 racers, in the rain - that was kind of hectic.

Subtract 40 if certain racers show up from Brooklyn. Literally only 5 or so guys on that list - they really make a race dangerous.

Add 30 if exclusively NJ, CT, RI, most MA, and points further north.

I don't do road races but it the longer the field can stretch out, the longer it takes for me to get dropped. I'd prefer a 1000 rider field if possible I could possibly get a pack finish that way, which, I have to admit, I don't think I've ever done.

cdr

Those are kind of strange addition and subtractions considering you regularly race against a certain bumblebee kitted team.
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I have the most fun in races that I win.
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Old 07-06-10, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by gsteinb View Post
Those are kind of strange addition and subtractions considering you regularly race against a certain bumblebee kitted team.
Hence "some MA"

But they've been much better this year, although most of them are currently out on injury (most of which are not their fault).

btw Brauer is not one of those Brooklyn teams.

66 at Harlem was nutty with the NYC crowd. 125 at Somerville wasn't as crazy.
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Old 07-07-10, 06:46 AM
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interesting. i seem to be the outlier. i think it is because i just like knowing everyone in my race and gauging their strengths and weaknesses during the race. i can do that with 30 dudes. 100, and it is just madness trying to track individual riders.
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Old 07-09-10, 12:06 PM
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The only time I really notice or care about field size is in road races where there are a ton of people, a strict centerline rule, and no paved shoulders
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