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The Break (taking one, and not at the line)

Old 07-16-10, 06:36 PM
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Old 07-16-10, 07:00 PM
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this thread really hits home with me right now. last week i almost cracked, but only took 2 days off before working for my team at a target race. then i tried to jump right back in to the hard stuff this week; tuesday's workout was ok, wednesday's was @$*(, and thursday's group ride felt like doggie paddling through 50 miles of mud with lead legs.

today i told my coach i needed a break, we adjusted my schedule and we'll pick it back up when i'm ready. i have a target race in 2 weeks but it doesn't matter; better to crack + rest now, than next week.
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Old 07-16-10, 09:52 PM
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Ex, Try cycling in more easy weeks early in the season. Sometimes it's hard to cut back 50% or so for a week in April. But it pays off in August or September. And for a seasoned racer the loss in fitness is minimal.

Short of that get on the Track a bit. Or just mid week races for a stretch, cut out the travel and have a beer on the weekend.
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Originally Posted by Racer Ex
Burnout: signs, symptoms, strategies for dealing and prevention...thought this was a good topic around this time in the season. When to take that break sort of thread...

Symptoms:

For me it usually happens a month or so after my peak race. The first signs are mental; stupid riding REALLY irritates me, more so than usual. The energy I had for all the packing/unpacking that goes along with racing starts to wane and I find myself throwing clothes in a bag that still has clothes in it from the last weekend.

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A couple weeks ago, I started to feel like my legs and mojo were coming back. Trying to get psyched up for my team's race next weekend. But then I noticed this ^^^ is probably the worst ever. Some small group rides are just making me ANGRY when even one person seems to have a stupid agenda. I didn't think about that being a burnout sign until this thread, but you're totally right.

Then my legs totally blew up last weekend. Training in the mountains was miserable. I felt like my FTP dropped 50W (and it is pretty low to begin with) and that I had regressed back to year 1 of training. Ugggh

This weekend's plan: 1) avoid stupid rides, 2) shut up, legs!
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Old 07-17-10, 06:49 AM
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big drop in ATL this morning. TSB positive. If everything goes according to plan, I will get a nice break and also work in a peak for ESG.

crossing fingers.

the good TT result thursday helped my confidence, and a change of scenery tomorrow (mountains) is coming at a good time too.
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Originally Posted by Voodoo76
cut out the travel and have a beer on the weekend.

Were we not supposed to be having beers before? Oops.
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Bingo.

1 Month off for me now. Wore my kit for the first time in 2.5 weeks yesterday for a 10 mi ride to my parent's house.

Some questions for the veterans about what to expect next year:
I was averaging ~8-10 hr/week from Mid. Dec through late June, and hit burnout pretty hard. Does this mean that next year, when I'm planning 10-12 hr/week over this time period I should expect burnout sooner? Or will I be a bit more adapted to put off burnout 'til around the same time.
For me, a lot of it I think deals with weeks of rain and 95f+ temperatures, really kills motivation. Would that imply I reach burnout at the same time? Or is it more a matter of the amount of volume/intensity in your training? i.e. external vs internal causes?
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My last big race of the season is Aug. 8th. After that I'm taking a break and riding for fun for a few months.
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Old 07-19-10, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by johnybutts
Bingo.

1 Month off for me now. Wore my kit for the first time in 2.5 weeks yesterday for a 10 mi ride to my parent's house.

Some questions for the veterans about what to expect next year:
I was averaging ~8-10 hr/week from Mid. Dec through late June, and hit burnout pretty hard. Does this mean that next year, when I'm planning 10-12 hr/week over this time period I should expect burnout sooner? Or will I be a bit more adapted to put off burnout 'til around the same time.
For me, a lot of it I think deals with weeks of rain and 95f+ temperatures, really kills motivation. Would that imply I reach burnout at the same time? Or is it more a matter of the amount of volume/intensity in your training? i.e. external vs internal causes?
I think it varies on intensity and motivation. I find that the harder I go on my own (interval sessions), the quicker I get crispy. group rides, etc, break that up for me. my motivation is pretty high though, I like making people suffer.
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Old 07-19-10, 03:28 PM
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Oh, and the heat completely saps my will.
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Originally Posted by johnybutts
Bingo.

1 Month off for me now. Wore my kit for the first time in 2.5 weeks yesterday for a 10 mi ride to my parent's house.

Some questions for the veterans about what to expect next year:
I was averaging ~8-10 hr/week from Mid. Dec through late June, and hit burnout pretty hard. Does this mean that next year, when I'm planning 10-12 hr/week over this time period I should expect burnout sooner? Or will I be a bit more adapted to put off burnout 'til around the same time.
For me, a lot of it I think deals with weeks of rain and 95f+ temperatures, really kills motivation. Would that imply I reach burnout at the same time? Or is it more a matter of the amount of volume/intensity in your training? i.e. external vs internal causes?
Don't know if I'm vet but I am old...I averaged about the same hours from Jan through mid May. My coach has always had me taking June off (ride but only for fun, no structure). I'm back on the bike and loving it again...I'll peak for the State TT..take dip then start really ramping up for the State RR in October. If I do any racing other than those two events it will be strictly for fun. This season has been easier for me to take a break because I reached all but one of my goals this season. Last year with all my injury's and illness it seemed like I could never get on track for anything.
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Old 07-19-10, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by El Diablo Rojo
... This season has been easier for me to take a break because I reached all but one of my goals this season. Last year with all my injury's and illness it seemed like I could never get on track for anything.
Perhaps you need to set your goals higher
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Old 07-19-10, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by kensuf
Oh, and the heat completely saps my will.
Sapped so much that you only put in 18 hours last week?

Dude, I came home today around 5:00 and was debating between having a beer or three and going out for 30 miles of alternating between zone 2 and SST. I put on my kit and rode.

Then I sat down for the three beers.
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Old 07-19-10, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Voodoo76
Perhaps you need to set your goals higher
Well that one goal I haven't met this year is win a race...I'm tired of Steak Knives and getting Fired.
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Old 07-19-10, 07:56 PM
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amen

Hey, J and I have a twist on our strategy for M35+ Driveway this week... don't want to talk about it here though.
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Today more or less confirmed that I need a break. I wasn't into racing today mentally or physically. There is one more road race I want to do this year in 2 weeks but I may just skip it.
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Originally Posted by mollusk
Such is the way we race in Florida. We have two seasons and the first one starts in January.

I'd have to say that I was racing well on Saturday of that weekend. On Sunday, not so much. The heat might have had an influence. After that race weekend I have been in a cycle between burn out and base, but it is getting more and more base than burn out recently.

And hammy56, you might like some of the road races in the "Fall" part of the schedule, especially if they do the St. Augustine weekend like last year. That sucker is dead flat!
I always feel better in the fall. The early part of the season is always nervous and edgy... the clowns that weren't in it for the long haul stopped showing up around Webster. Several of the really strong 3's made the step up midseason. Everyone's burnt out after the spring and is usually ready to return in the fall to go at it again.

That feeling of not wanting to get my stuff packed and drive out to the races stayed with me last year until Bartow when I realized that it felt good to be back out there again. It really is a second wind for lack of a better description.
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ESG done. break time.
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Old 07-25-10, 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by saratoga
I always feel better in the fall. The early part of the season is always nervous and edgy... the clowns that weren't in it for the long haul stopped showing up around Webster. Several of the really strong 3's made the step up midseason. Everyone's burnt out after the spring and is usually ready to return in the fall to go at it again.

That feeling of not wanting to get my stuff packed and drive out to the races stayed with me last year until Bartow when I realized that it felt good to be back out there again. It really is a second wind for lack of a better description.
The wife's talking about a vacation in early October, so season 2010B is going to be short for me. I'll just have to burn really really bright during that month.
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