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Old 11-09-10, 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by FormerRower
Rkwaki - I currently live in CT but will be in TN (Chattanooga) by June of next year. I did all of my racing in the south this past summer.
Did you do a couple Rent races? Gordy's Ford?

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>>So basically, today's 1's=yesteryears 2's?<<

I think it's more like there are more Cat 1's today, with wider range of riding talent in that group.

There are Cat 1's who are essentially Cat 2's with a good sprint, then there are Cat 1's who can ride and TT on what I consider to be a (domestic) pro level, in fact some of them are demonstrably faster (by virtue of their TT times for example) than many domestic pro riders. So that does encompass a rather broad range of ability. With the much larger membership in today's USA Cycling vs. the USCF in the mid 1990's, there would be a larger number of Cat 1 riders today.
+1. It used to be that there could only be x number of Cat 1s in the US (200?). Now you see people upgrading in a "specialty" sense (like me). In the old days you wouldn't be upgraded on the road unless you did well in all types of races (RR, crit). So lots of upgrade requests were declined because, for example, the rider never did road races.

Now you can get an upgrade based on a select few races/types of races (again, like me). I'm no Cat 4 in a road race (I've been dropped by them), maybe barely a Cat 5. TT? I'm a solid middling Cat 4 or Cat 5. But a crit... I can hold my own.

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Originally Posted by FormerRower
You got it . Are you in the north or south? I'm sure I will be getting chewed up in those races as I figure out how to race at that level.
I'm in TN.
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Originally Posted by johnybutts
Im honestly curious, did it not simply scale with more people entering the sport? What changed as far as upgrade requirements or whatever that caused the growth of the active cat1 field?

What were cat1 races like back then if there were only 10-20 in any given area
There were no cat 1 races around here that I know of. It was all 1-2 or P-1-2.
But there were plenty of good cat 2s that would beat up on the rest of the pack.
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I thought the sport was bigger in the 80's in the US than it is now?
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Originally Posted by ridethecliche
I thought the sport was bigger in the 80's in the US than it is now?
Hair was bigger, but cycling, I dunno about that one.
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Lance brought a lot of people to the sport.
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Originally Posted by kensuf
Lance brought a lot of people to the sport.
That's true but so did Lemond after his win in '86.
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Originally Posted by zstjohn
i'm 6'1"and 155. I think that's my optimal weight i'm at around 10% body fat
I am 6'2" and was 148 in May-Aug. Since then I have added weight, now I sit around 160 to 165.
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I am 6'2" and was 148 in May-Aug. Since then I have added weight, now I sit around 160 to 165.
Soon you're going to be buff like me
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Originally Posted by rkwaki
Soon you're going to be buff like me
Ha. We'll see how that works out.
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My 2011 goal is simple, to get in good enough condition that I feel like entering a race.
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My 2011 goal is simple, to get in good enough condition that I feel like entering a race.
you're doing it wrong.
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Originally Posted by johnybutts
you're doing it wrong.
Entering a cat 3 race as a 220 pound slow poke wouldn't turn out well for me. Nothing positive to be gained from being dropped 100 yards from the start line.
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Originally Posted by LowCel
Entering a cat 3 race as a 220 pound slow poke wouldn't turn out well for me. Nothing positive to be gained from being dropped 100 yards from the start line.
I see, I was mistaken.
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my goals are to get leaner

improve my biking handling

be competitive in the C's (we don't have Cat 1-5)

learn to to TT better

get a better idea of my strengths and race to them

become a stronger climber
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Goals for 2011:
Be the best Dad on Earth.
Finish RAIN (Ride Across Indiana) ... I dnf'd in 2010 grrrrr.
Complete 1 Century a month average.
4000 miles total on the road bike.
Compete in the local TTs.
Actually train.
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Originally Posted by Ultraslide
Goals for 2011:
Be the best Dad on Earth.
Finish RAIN (Ride Across Indiana) ... I dnf'd in 2010 grrrrr.
Complete 1 Century a month average.
4000 miles total on the road bike.
Compete in the local TTs.
Actually train.
I am considering doing RAIN as well. I wanted to do it in the past but something with my racing schedule always screwed up my plans.
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Originally Posted by LowCel
I am considering doing RAIN as well. I wanted to do it in the past but something with my racing schedule always screwed up my plans.
It's the only ride of it's type I've ever attempted so I have nothing to compare it to, but it seems like a boring route. I'll go back and finish this year, but I'm looking for mountain centuries in 2011. Climbing suits me.
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Noticed some thread revival going on, so....

It took me some time to figure out and put together; but, some time away from home and the bike, and no work, helped me crystalize my 2011 goal/theme/raison d'etre: to be kickin' it old school. When I win, I'll be kickin' it old school. Just before I launch my sprints, I'll mutter kickin' it old school. If cdr lets me wear the cam for a race, I'll make sure this is audible before I slay the field in Bethel.
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So? How did everyone make out?

I know the road season isn't quite done for some people but it's definitely winding down.
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Originally Posted by Apus^2
Enter a race--Fail
Get FTP back up to 355+--Fail
Get weight back down to 170--Fail
380 watt 20 minute interval (which means I need an ftp ~ 360)--Fail
Don't crash--Pass (only because I failed so much)
No surgeries--Pass
I boarded the fail boat. Full fail ahead. My 2012 goals...

Enter a race
Get FTP back up to 355+
Get weight back down to 170
380 watt 20 minute interval (which means I need an ftp ~ 360)
Don't crash

Some people never learn.
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Originally Posted by graphs
I haven't posted here in forever but since I have some defined goals, I will share.

- create and adhere to a better training plan than last year. this is a big challenge as i've never beenspecially disciplined.
I did create a plan and stuck with it through the first half of the racing season. Midway through the season I started getting some coaching help and went with his program instead.

- go to the gym for weight training and yoga/pilates classes over the winter. i got injured as a result of muscle imbalances this year, do not want to repeat.
Never ended up going to the gym but I did do weights, core and flexibility work twice a week through the winter and spring.

- get my weight down to 145 from 155 (or at least keep it sub-150).
Only managed to hit 145 once for a couple days but I was consistently ~148 for most of the racing season.

- win some mother****ing races
FAIL. A 3rd, two 5ths and a sixth were the best I could pull out.

- upgrade to Master 2 (or Senior 3 if I change my mind about racing with the old guys)
FAIL. I managed only 6 of the 10 points necessary to upgrade. Will request the upgrade anyway. Fingers crossed.
Now you go.
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Go from a cat 4 to a cat 2.
Race Tulsa Tough and Cascade stage race, as well as traveling more to do other races.
Weigh 145 all season.
Race in Europe.
Get on a good U23 team.
Become a better person and bike racer.
Get a win.
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My 2011 goal is to throw a leg over that damn red bicycle hanging in my garage...that I bump my head on every now and then. I bet I can't ride more than a mile before I would bonk.Motivated? Not hardly. Maybe when it cools down some.
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Originally Posted by topflightpro
My goals are to upgrade to a 3 and I'd like to get my weight under 160.
Well, I didn't get my 3 upgrade, though I have some points and notched one win and a couple top 10s. My racing was substantially better, so I'm not too disappointed.

As for my weight, well, I'm leaner, but not any lighter.
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