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Old 11-16-10, 01:40 PM
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I have a lot of the "standard" programming books. I also have some ancient computer science books that I rescued out of our library cleanup at work maybe a decade ago. "Computer Architecture" (1970) and "Encyclopedia of Computer Science" (1976). Neither is really useful anymore, but it's neat to have saved a little bit of history.
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Originally Posted by mattm
Trying to decipher your list...

- K&R is the Kernigan & Richie(?) book on C, right?
- Stevens is the TCP Illustrated book? I have that one! Love it...
- The Dinosaur book is the OS book? I had that one in college, wish I'd kept it

Another book I had in school that I wish I'd kept was the famous "Dragon book", e.g. the compiler book..

As for the Knuth books, I too feel unworthy for not owning them! One of these days..
yep you got it. sorry, wasn't trying to be obscure just easier to type K&R, etc. Also Stevens' other books too - good stuff.

i've never read the dragon book, would like to...the book we used for my compiler class was a P.O.S. don't remember the name.
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Originally Posted by ridethecliche
Aki. This is from warhammer 40k.
It's kind of like dungeons and dragons with armies instead of characters. Or like Risk, I suppose.

I used to buy a ton of the Tyranid stuff because I loved painting them. They're all at my parent's house. I used to spend like 40-50 hours on each one of the miniatures...
Ah interesting. I better not google it.
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Originally Posted by carpediemracing
Ah interesting. I better not google it.


I tried painting some Dragonlance (AD&D) miniatures when I was a kid. Turns out if you've got zero artistic skills in general, combining something you love with those lack of skills does not automatically equal awesome.
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I used to play D&D. We had the book that had the copyright violation creatures in it - apparently it's worth a lot now. A few years ago my bro gave all our books to a D&D fanatic friend of his. Much better that someone appreciates it.

D&D with tanks and stuff? Talk about potential time warp material for me.

A time warp hobby I had was building plastic models, mainly WW2 or cars. I still have them all boxed away, along with the unfinished ones. When you try and build a literal army (last count was over 1000 little guys) with their support equipment...

I like your quote: "combining something you love with those lack of skills does not automatically equal awesome"

Heh.
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Originally Posted by slynkie


I tried painting some Dragonlance (AD&D) miniatures when I was a kid. Turns out if you've got zero artistic skills in general, combining something you love with those lack of skills does not automatically equal awesome.
I suck at drawing/painting/what have you, but I got crazy with these things. I got really good at detailing them and going absolutely nuts with the texture/etc.

Some of the stuff I painted rivals the stuff here:
https://kofler.dot.at/40k/tyranid.html
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wow some of those are pretty sweet. let's see your stuff!
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- "How We Test Software at Microsoft" - got this one for free since the guy who wrote it works a floor down, need to get an autograph..
Must be a quick read (Sorry I couldn't resist teasing my old friend MS.)

I actually love Microsoft. I've been developing with their software since VB3/SQL 6.0 and have few complaints. For a small business developing & selling solutions MS development tools are hard to beat. They're a good price, easy to learn/use, and reliable (as long as you stay away from their hot "new" products).

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"LAN TIMES Guide to SQL"
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Originally Posted by slynkie
wow some of those are pretty sweet. let's see your stuff!
I'll have to take pictures when I get home for thanksgiving. I'll take the SLR.

I hope they're still in one piece. My mom would knock a few off and break them when I wasn't home. I didn't care because I was in college and I used to paint those things in HS. I just wish I had better brushes because mine were always too big for the eyes...

The super geeky thing is that they have novels. I've read a few. Depending on the author, they're actually pretty good. Atleast they were in 9th grade...
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I thought everyone just called it K&R.

Matt, I'm surprised you don't have Code Complete.
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Originally Posted by slynkie
yep you got it. sorry, wasn't trying to be obscure just easier to type K&R, etc. Also Stevens' other books too - good stuff.

i've never read the dragon book, would like to...the book we used for my compiler class was a P.O.S. don't remember the name.
I loved my compilers class. We used ELI, which sort of had its own lexx and yacc, and added languages for types and all the other crap. Pretty cool. Then we turned around and used it to implement a compiler for my Sr. Project (2 semesters at 4 credits each) that converted a commercial proprietary language into Java. That company actually used the system for their installed airline reservation systems to catch up since Java had been introduced since they had gotten started. Those were the days.

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Originally Posted by umd
I thought everyone just called it K&R.
The book is nearly twice as old as me and even I call it K&R. Takes me a second to think of what it stands for.

Matt, I'm surprised you don't have Code Complete.
Since we're on the topic of what we're reading, here's what's currently on my desk (Kindle, technically):
  • Peopleware
  • The Ruby Programming Language
  • Agile Web Development with Rails
  • Enterprise Rails
  • SICP
  • Programming in Haskell*
I don't even like Rails.

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Originally Posted by Urthwhyte
Programming in Haskell
Haha, we used Haskell in our programming languages class.

Anyone used/heard of Eiffel?
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So I just rode my bike on the trainer. 1 minutes intervals.
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Originally Posted by umd
Haha, we used Haskell in our programming languages class.
I like it a lot for aiding in my maths course, but for day to day stuff I default to Python or C#. Partly due to the majority of my non schoolwork related programming being in web development, partly because there is only so much of FP I can grok without approaching caffeine overdose levels.
Anyone used/heard of Eiffel?
Only when related to the mention of design by contract
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Originally Posted by jwible
So I just rode my bike on the trainer. 1 minutes intervals.
This reminds me that I need to start working on that Golden Cheetah project. Need to find an ANT+ USB stick somewhere in this technology-forsaken country first through.
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Originally Posted by Urthwhyte
This reminds me that I need to start working on that Golden Cheetah project. Need to find an ANT+ USB stick somewhere in this technology-forsaken country first through.
Damn, I was just trying to pollute this thread with bike talk.
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Originally Posted by carpediemracing
Not to be picky but this is a geek thread... one of my fascinations is ww2 and specifically battlefield tactics. Obviously the tank is a big part of it, and I've been reading about the equipment, tactics, and people involved for literally decades. My question is the history behind the land ship tank thing in the picture. It seems to incorporate a lot of early tank technology along with some late tank features.

cdr
Yeah - as stated the tank is supposed to come from 38,000 years in the future where WWI and WWII equipment is de rigueur matched alongside plasma pistols and las cannons.

Me and my son both got one at the same time, I still need to finish building mine, but helping my son airbrush his at the moment.

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The Adeptus Mechanicus wish it knew
LOL - wrong forum to garner a lot of laughs from that joke though!



In regards to books and stuff, I am enjoying geeking out on exercise physiology and cycling science at the moment. Currently following through the ADP/ATP energy cycle. Thinking about doing a correspondence degree in the area for interest (I have lost my passion for IT, but as the sole income earner for my family it pays well for what is now easy stress free/low stress work so no change of careers for me!)
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Originally Posted by umd
Haha, we used Haskell in our programming languages class.

Anyone used/heard of Eiffel?
I remember the name - is it an old AI language like LISP?

(stretching my mind back to doing robotics classes!)
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my workplace filters out all URLs with the word "forum" in it. yes, forum. what is a guy to do all day......later.
probably better just not surf the net from work. or not let them figure out how to filter it.
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probably better just not surf the net from work. or not let them figure out how to filter it.
IP address may still work.
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Originally Posted by tallmantim
I remember the name - is it an old AI language like LISP?
Not very old, 25 years or so. It's an object oriented language.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eiffel_...mming_language)

It popped in my head because I went to high school with one of his daughters and she showed up at my house on halloween trick-or-treating with her kids. Turns out her younger sister moved into his old house which apparently is almost directly across the street from me, and she bought a house around the corner.
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Originally Posted by ridethecliche
I suck at drawing/painting/what have you, but I got crazy with these things. I got really good at detailing them and going absolutely nuts with the texture/etc.

Some of the stuff I painted rivals the stuff here:
https://kofler.dot.at/40k/tyranid.html
That's really cool RTC.

Here is the last tank I painted which has the WWI/WWII feel to it:



I did that a few months back...

Fun to do hobby stuff with the kids and share their interests. Being a geek can make you the "Cool Dad" to a group of 13 year old boys (running their first D&D adventure for them and stuff).

Discovered something interesting - my work filters anything with the word "Twitter" in the URL, but BF allows you to trim the URL, so instead of:

https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...-feed/page1732

which I can't access I can go to:

https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...24026/page1732

which my work proxy allows me to.

Oh - and IP Address won't work for BF - it redirects to the URL, so accessing through https://67.201.17.199 will repoint you to the regular URL.
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Originally Posted by tallmantim
Yeah - as stated the tank is supposed to come from 38,000 years in the future where WWI and WWII equipment is de rigueur matched alongside plasma pistols and las cannons.
This just reminded me of the movie "Final Countdown"
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Originally Posted by umd
Matt, I'm surprised you don't have Code Complete.
A great point - I have the old 1st edition at home, but I should just go ahead and buy the latest & greatest version.

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Haha, we used Haskell in our programming languages class.

Anyone used/heard of Eiffel?
It's mentioned a good deal in OO books.... never used it though.

The most obscure language I've used is Ada 95, which is actually object-oriented! That and LISP, which was really weird.
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