"Vermont is always in season"
#1
fair weather cyclist
Thread Starter
"Vermont is always in season"
i keep seeing these ads, i am sure they are semi targetted.
any vermonters?
we have been thinking about moving there ever since we first visited waitsfield before doing GMSR like 5 years ago. probably would go to waitsfield/warren. Job situation is not good but i am a telecommuter for now.
are there any races near by really other than the 2 big stage races(killington and gmsr) ? anything in burlington or montpelier?
ideally i would live at the base of Mt Lemmon or some other huge climb but we cant have everything. we want to stay pretty close to NJ because of our families. east coast for sure.
obviously if i move to waitsfield id pretty much have to win the app gap stage or live in shame.
any vermonters?
we have been thinking about moving there ever since we first visited waitsfield before doing GMSR like 5 years ago. probably would go to waitsfield/warren. Job situation is not good but i am a telecommuter for now.
are there any races near by really other than the 2 big stage races(killington and gmsr) ? anything in burlington or montpelier?
ideally i would live at the base of Mt Lemmon or some other huge climb but we cant have everything. we want to stay pretty close to NJ because of our families. east coast for sure.
obviously if i move to waitsfield id pretty much have to win the app gap stage or live in shame.
#3
fair weather cyclist
Thread Starter
i am saying that would be great, but not possible... since we want to stay on the east coast near-ish to NJ.
my profile is me on mt lemmon. love that climb.
my profile is me on mt lemmon. love that climb.
#4
Writin' stuff
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Durango, CO
Posts: 3,784
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 19 Times
in
4 Posts
I grew up in Burlington. Tons of great riding. Learn to XC ski or you will want to kill yourself all winter - riding on the road is often impossible. Or get a pugsly and ride the snowmobile trails.
#5
Too Much Crazy
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: NY
Posts: 3,660
Bikes: Eriksen 29er, Gunnar Roadie, Niner RLT, Niner RIP 9
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 116 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times
in
2 Posts
I love the Mad River Valley. Excellent road riding, great MTB trails, good river play.
Downhill and xc ski is a must though. Long winter, you have to enjoy it
Downhill and xc ski is a must though. Long winter, you have to enjoy it
#6
fair weather cyclist
Thread Starter
we love it too. i love the idea of having a 30 minute climb at my doorsteps, among other things! the roads are a bit crappy there but i think the hills make it worth it.
yeah there are some great spots to swim in the river as long as you like 55 degree water! it is great after a long hard ride though, to soak your legs .
have to figure out something for the winter that is dog and baby friendly. ive never done xc skiing but in the winter here in nj i am out 5 days a week for 2 hours hiking so whatever transition would probably be pretty easy-ish. not sure about the safety of a baby on the back or i front since that is new to me. i know some people drag them in sleds too.
yeah there are some great spots to swim in the river as long as you like 55 degree water! it is great after a long hard ride though, to soak your legs .
have to figure out something for the winter that is dog and baby friendly. ive never done xc skiing but in the winter here in nj i am out 5 days a week for 2 hours hiking so whatever transition would probably be pretty easy-ish. not sure about the safety of a baby on the back or i front since that is new to me. i know some people drag them in sleds too.
#7
fair weather cyclist
Thread Starter
k... still looking for a place to live. but i'm feeling it now... its coming... its close. will live within 5minutes of this.. nothing amazing but good for the east coast. nice for 20-30 minute reps.
no idea why i cant make that bigger.
no idea why i cant make that bigger.
#8
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Needham, MA
Posts: 419
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
My brother lives in Burlington and I visit him quite frequently. I absolutely love Vermont and really want to move there one day as well. In regards to places to live for cycling...his girlfriend lives down in the Rutland area which seems beautiful. From there you're also pretty close to Route 73 and Route 100 and a bunch of the big gap climbs.
#9
purity of essence
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: NH
Posts: 2,260
Bikes: 2018 Giant Trance 2, 2019 Trek Farley 7, 2017 Jamis Renegade Exploit
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 37 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 26 Times
in
11 Posts
I think you might be thinking of Mt. Ellen, near Sugarbush.
VT is a great place to live. I have dual citizenship with NH. Burlington, Montpeculiar and Bratt are my favorite towns.
VT is a great place to live. I have dual citizenship with NH. Burlington, Montpeculiar and Bratt are my favorite towns.
#10
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Rochester, NY
Posts: 156
Bikes: Felt B16, Steel Fuji
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Burlington is an awsome place, id love to live there some day. but I also would love to live out west moreso.. and thats where Ill probably end up. But, burlington is one of the coolest cities ive ever been too. if not the coolest
#11
fair weather cyclist
Thread Starter
any thoughts on XC skiing on rolling terrain (ups and downs) vs snowshoe hill climbing for bicycle fitness. is snowshoeing a waste of time ? I would think that would develop leg muscles?
#12
out walking the earth
I love snowshoeing, but skate skiing uses the same muscles as cycling or speed skating. Snowshoeing is walking with resistance.
#13
Writin' stuff
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Durango, CO
Posts: 3,784
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 19 Times
in
4 Posts
skate skiing works your core as well.
Back in my junior years I would race all winter, riding maybe once a week, then hop straight from skis to bike in early March with plenty of fitness. It would always take about a month for the muscle memory to come around again, but I was always amazed how applicable it was.
Back in my junior years I would race all winter, riding maybe once a week, then hop straight from skis to bike in early March with plenty of fitness. It would always take about a month for the muscle memory to come around again, but I was always amazed how applicable it was.
#14
fair weather cyclist
Thread Starter
well not sure what this'll do for bike form but i have been xc skiing. it is mostly backcountry - with some trail breaking since it is not heavily traveled. mostly gently sloping up/down, not a ton of flat, which makes things interesting. real fun and real easy to get out even when it is super cold since you are really moving.
#15
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: 44.0942-73.366791
Posts: 412
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Long winters, crappy pavement, @-hole drivers [the Mini-Me diesel drivers love to spool up as they pass you], lots of red necks with guns and everyone and their brother moving there. Not much racing cept for training crits and TT. You'll spend most weekends in southern New England.
I'd say, not a good choice.
I'd say, not a good choice.
#16
fair weather cyclist
Thread Starter
Long winters, crappy pavement, @-hole drivers [the Mini-Me diesel drivers love to spool up as they pass you], lots of red necks with guns and everyone and their brother moving there. Not much racing cept for training crits and TT. You'll spend most weekends in southern New England.
I'd say, not a good choice.
I'd say, not a good choice.
in nj you can hardly get out of bergen county without getting run over and i know all about the idiots who like to spool up their Turbodiesel when they go past you. probably more of them in NJ just because of shear volume of people.
the days like today (-15 F) I am not going to bother going out. But 20F (tomorrow) feels downright warm. Crappy roads I think you are right. Some 25's @ 95 psi or so should handle that just fine. Not a lot of rednecks here, at least in this portion of vt. Hunting season is pretty short too. In NJ we end up driving hours to good races anyway, genoerally these races will not be much further. Some exceptions of course, like bear mountain which I just won't do, Pawling RR probably will have to skip, but I only have a 45 min drive to killington stage race. Green mountain stage race is in my backyard now. same with allen clark memorial hill climb. i will probably do fewer races, so i will just have to do better at the ones i do
Last edited by pjcampbell; 01-24-11 at 08:05 AM.
#17
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: 44.0942-73.366791
Posts: 412
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Actually hunting seasons are very long. People just think about the regular rifle deer season that runs 16 days in Nov.
Many locations in VT aren't really VT ...or they are part of the 'new' Vermont i.e. Stowe/Burlington/MRV/Woodstock/etc.
Didn't say VT wasn't better then NJ in some [many] respects, just don't move there.
Many locations in VT aren't really VT ...or they are part of the 'new' Vermont i.e. Stowe/Burlington/MRV/Woodstock/etc.
Didn't say VT wasn't better then NJ in some [many] respects, just don't move there.
#18
fair weather cyclist
Thread Starter
yes this is what they call "fake" Vermont. where do you live?
i guess i don't know about the rest of hunting season? i have not seen any hunters since november, and that was in moretown
as for don't move here, it's too late.
i guess i don't know about the rest of hunting season? i have not seen any hunters since november, and that was in moretown
as for don't move here, it's too late.
#19
Raising the bar
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Newmarket, New Hampshire
Posts: 1,106
Bikes: 2007 Specialized Allez Double (sold), 2009 Kestrel RT 800
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
well not sure what this'll do for bike form but i have been xc skiing. it is mostly backcountry - with some trail breaking since it is not heavily traveled. mostly gently sloping up/down, not a ton of flat, which makes things interesting. real fun and real easy to get out even when it is super cold since you are really moving.
But if you're in Vermont you could come to the MWARBH. It's good fun, yes it is. Coined as the hardest hillclimb in the world, too
#20
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: 44.0942-73.366791
Posts: 412
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts