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Old 02-26-11, 04:18 PM
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Rim for race with very rough surface

So I am thinking of riding the Mead Roubaix in April. However, I was thinking of building up a wheel set specific to riding on rough dirt roads. Since it has shown that a wider tire will provide less rolling resistance, I was thinking of building out a 23mm rim with 36 spokes, and then use this rim post-race as a kind of bomb proof wheel set for rides where it involves a lot of dirt and/or rougher roads.

What are your thoughts on a good box rim that would fit this criteria. As for hubs, I was just going to get some cheaper 105 hubs.
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36 spokes for a race wheel? never!
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If you use Campy, I have a pre built wheel set with Vittoria tubulars already mounted I'd let go pretty cheap
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Originally Posted by VT Biker View Post
So I am thinking of riding the Mead Roubaix in April. However, I was thinking of building up a wheel set specific to riding on rough dirt roads. Since it has shown that a wider tire will provide less rolling resistance, I was thinking of building out a 23mm rim with 36 spokes, and then use this rim post-race as a kind of bomb proof wheel set for rides where it involves a lot of dirt and/or rougher roads.

What are your thoughts on a good box rim that would fit this criteria. As for hubs, I was just going to get some cheaper 105 hubs.
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Old 02-26-11, 04:36 PM
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If you use Campy, I have a pre built wheel set with Vittoria tubulars already mounted I'd let go pretty cheap
Those are nice wheels, and pretty light (I've picked one up). 36 spokes is overkill BTW.
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Originally Posted by VT Biker View Post
Since it has shown that a wider tire will provide less rolling resistance
Where did you hear that? The only test I'm aware of showed no difference. But if you want to run fat tires, the wide rim will be fine.

But... if you want a really good set for these conditions, then tubular would be better.
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24H front and 28 rear works very well for rough stuff for most riders.
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Originally Posted by rruff View Post
Where did you hear that? The only test I'm aware of showed no difference.
Wheel Energy claims they roll 5% better.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/...f-wheel-energy
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I got a set of ultra open pro fo$199 to use for Webster Roubaix. Perhaps not the best option but cost effective.
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24H front and 28 rear works very well for rough stuff for most riders.
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Hey guys,

I want to thank you so much for helping out with this. I have down to either HED C2 or Velocity Synergy rims. I like the idea of a box style rim, versus the HED Belgium rims, which are more an aero profile. Again - these are also going to be used for my single-speed bike afterwards. I am going to go with 32R 28F (you convinced me), since I want to use these for races and faster rides.

Sapim Race spokes.
Tiagra hubs (I believe they should take 10 speed cassettes).

As for offers to buy wheel sets, I appreciate the offers, but part of this for me is the fun of building my own wheels.
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Originally Posted by Nate552 View Post
Wheel Energy claims they roll 5% better.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/...f-wheel-energy
Sorry... thought you were talking about rims for some reason. Yes, a wider tire will have lower rolling resistance if the casing and tread are the same.
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I'm a little late to the party, but here's another option. Boxy, strong, wide and cheap.

http://salsacycles.com/components/delgado_cross/
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I've got a bomb proof set of Ksyrium Equipes with some wire bead puncture resistant tires that I use for bad courses (and they make a good set of pit wheels too). Heavy as all hell, but they work great.
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Originally Posted by Nate552 View Post
Wheel Energy claims they roll 5% better.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/...f-wheel-energy
Isn't rolling resistance of most tires/tubes down to like 3watts? So 5% better is 5% of whatever the rolling resistance is, not 5% off the top.

Regardless, feel and placebo make up for it, surely.
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36h is overkill. My 12-mile commute includes a few miles of dirt trail, and I run 32h Velocity Dyad rims front/rear. My commuter weighs over 30 pounds w/o panniers, and I've had zero problems with my wheels. The Velocity Synergy would be a good choice, as would the A23.
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Velocity A23 rims with your favorite hubs.
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