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Gerrie Knetemann dies

Old 11-02-04, 04:48 PM
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From cyclingnews.com:

Knetemann dead at 53

Dutch cycling legend Gerrie Knetemann has died, aged 53, on Tuesday afternoon, November 2. The ex-World Champion and national coach of the Dutch road team felt unwell during ski training and was taken to hospital, where he died of heart failure. The exact cause of death is unknown.

Knetemann's professional career began in 1973, and during it he won the World Championship, Amstel Gold Race (twice), 10 stages in the Tour de France, Paris-Nice, Tour of the Netherlands (3 times) and Tour Méditerranéen (3 times). He retired in 1989.
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Old 11-02-04, 06:18 PM
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RIP indeed, a lot of bike legends have been dieing lately of heart related problems, makes you wonder
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Old 11-02-04, 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by pk273340
RIP indeed, a lot of bike legends have been dieing lately of heart related problems, makes you wonder
umm amphetamines? I've heard that a lot of old-schoolers used amphetamines quite a bit back before they had doping controls. and amphetamines just wear out your heart.
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Old 11-02-04, 08:00 PM
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One of the hard men of his time.

One of the side effects of a hard racing career is an enlarged heart. It is not related to drug use, but rather to the heart muscle growing in size to adapt to the volume of blood required by the body in extended, hard competition. I don't know that Gerrie had one, or what caused his heart failure, but if an ex-pro does not keep the heart muscle in shape after he stops racing, heart problems can ensue. Sean Kelly has reported that he has, as he calls it, a sporting heart, and so he has to keep riding to keep it in shape.

They were able to detect amphetamines, steroids, and many other performance enhancing drugs back in the dark ages of the 70's and 80's.

We haven't even had a positive test here and people are jumping to conclusions. Please.
 
Old 11-02-04, 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by don d.
One of the side effects of a hard racing career is an enlarged heart. It is not related to drug use, but rather to the heart muscle growing in size to adapt to the volume of blood required by the body in extended, hard competition. I don't know that Gerrie had one, or what caused his heart failure, but if an ex-pro does not keep the heart muscle in shape after he stops racing, heart problems can ensue.
Ummmm.... no. The heart adapts up to a larger size as you said, but if you stop exercising, it adapts back to a smaller size. Heart problems don't result just from not working the heart as much as you used to.
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Old 11-02-04, 11:32 PM
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I've said it before, but cycling at that level is not good for the body. Even without drugs, it's an amazing amount of stress on the heart and the digestive tract.
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Old 11-03-04, 08:01 AM
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without getting into discussions of doping, physiology, politics etc.

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Old 11-03-04, 01:56 PM
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really, the guy died.

And that is a very cool picture btw.
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I agree that it sucks that he died. I didn't know who he was...I suppose I should have exercised more tact. I'm sorry for any offense I caused.

but nonetheless, I think that it is curios how really elite athletes die young like that, I suppose its like overclocking your body, asking too much of it.
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Ahh, sad news indeed. I have great memories of him, Hennie Kuiper, Joop Zootemelk, Lucien van Impe, etc. Tough racing back then for not much money.
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Old 11-04-04, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by don d.
One of the hard men of his time.
My very thought upon seeing the news. Yes, one of the "hard men" of cycling.

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Originally Posted by Phatman
umm amphetamines? I've heard that a lot of old-schoolers used amphetamines quite a bit back before they had doping controls. and amphetamines just wear out your heart.
Might you like to qualify that statement? If not, then what are we to expect of all those people with ADD/ADHD that have been taking them for years, if not decades?
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Old 11-04-04, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Maj.Taylor
Might you like to qualify that statement? If not, then what are we to expect of all those people with ADD/ADHD that have been taking them for years, if not decades?
The doses for ADD don't really do much of anything, physically. For an endurance boost, an athlete would be taking a much higher dose.
You do know that thousands of people wear away their bodies and minds each year from ampthetamines, right?
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It would be nice to continue this thread or start a new thread as a tribute to Gerrie Knetemann. How about we all post interesting facts and quotes about Gerrie and also some interesting photos. I have a couple of cycling books which have great photographs and I will take a look this weekend to see what I can find. Anybody else have other memorabilia of "Kneet" that many of us may not have ever seen? For some reason I think those Dutch guys were hard as nails (probably because they and most bicycle racers are) . Wasn't he also one of the few Olympic champions that won a medal as an amateur and then went on to have a successful pro career? I am a sucker for cycling history and that black and white photo in the first post is fantastic!
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1974
Amstel Gold Race
Une étape du Dauphiné-Libéré
3ème d'une étape du Tour de France

1975
Une étape du Tour de Romandie
Une étape du Tour de l'Oise
Une étape du Tour de France
Une étape de l'Etoile des Espoirs
3ème de Paris-Nice

1976
Ruta del Sol
Tour de Hollande
Une étape de la Ruta del Sol
Une étape du Tour de Hollande
Trophée Zumaquero-Malaga
3ème du Tour du Luxembourg
3ème d'une étape du Tour de France

1977
Grand Prix de Frankfort
Quatre Jours de Dunkerque
Deux étapes de Paris-Nice
Deux étapes du Tour de France
2ème de l'Amstel Gold Race
2ème de Paris-Nice
2ème de deux étapes du Tour de France
3ème du Championnat de Hollande

1978
Championnat du Monde
Tour Méditerranéen
Paris-Nice
Trois étapes de Paris-Nice
Deux étapes du Tour de France
Une étape du Tour Méditerranéen
Une étape du Tour de Suisse
Une étape du Tour de Hollande
2ème de Paris-Bruxelles

1979 (16)
Quatre étapes du Tour de Suisse
Deux étapes du Tour de France
Une étape de Paris-Nice
Une étape du Tour de Hollande
2ème du Tour du Limbourg
2ème de la Flèche Brabançonne
2ème du Tour Méditerranéen
2ème du Tour de Hollande
2ème d'une étape du Tour de France
3ème de Paris-Nice
3ème de trois étapes du Tour de France

1980
Tour Méditerranéen
Tour de Belgique
Tour de Hollande
Deux étapes de Paris-Nice
Une étape du tour Méditerranéen
Une étape du Tour de France
2ème de deux étapes du Tour de France
3ème du GP Eddy Merckx
3ème de Paris-Nice

1981
Tour de Hollande
Une étape du Tour de Romandie
Une étape du Tour de Hollande
2ème du Championnat de Hollande
2ème de trois étapes du Tour de France

1982
Deux étapes de Tirreno-Adriatico
Deux étapes du Tour de France
Une étape des Trois Jours de La Panne
2ème de Tirreno-Adriatico
2ème de deux étapes du Tour de France

1983
Tour Méditerranéen
Une étape du Tour Méditerranéen
Costières-du-Gard
2ème de Tirreno-Adriatico
3ème de l'Etoile de Béssèges

1984
Deux étapes de la Ruta del Sol

1985
Amstel Gold Race

1986
Tour de Hollande
Une étape du Tour de Suisse

1987
Tour de Suède
2ème de Wouw
2ème d'une étape du Tour de Romandie

130 victories.

Sorry for the huge posts. Illustrates his great career though.
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That TI Raleigh team Peter Post managed in the late 70's and early 80's was something else...............

So long Gerrie- and thanks.
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Cardiomegaly - the downfall of endurance athletes.
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Originally Posted by Jaco
Cardiomegaly - the downfall of endurance athletes.
Was this the cause of death?
 
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