training with race wheels vs training wheels?
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I'm going to have to get another set of brake shoes. I had to use grease to get the cork pads into the shoes when I did it last weekend, and it took forever. No way I'm getting them out in one piece, and not in a reasonable amount of time.
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The switching of brake shoes is kind of a PITA, especially if you're in a rush. One more reason I save my race wheels for racing.
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A tip for putting new shoes in, especially for Campy 2000 style holders:
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I train with race wheels. I do a lot of solo riding so I guess it's only me vs. my power meter and speed ultimately doesn't matter. My brother and I just got out of the A2 wind tunnel and tested our wheels. Here is an excerpt from our blog to give you an idea of how much of an advantage race wheels will give your friends.
At FLO Cycling we wanted to define a useful term. Since we know we spend roughly 80% of our time racing between 10 and 20 degrees of yaw, we feel it is best to calculate a weighted average of drag reduction. A cyclist would then have an excellent idea of how many seconds a FLO Wheel will save them regardless of the wind angle. We call this value the Net Drag Reduction Value (NDRV).
Below are the NDRV of our FLO wheels and the optimal reduction value assuming mother nature is only blowing at the perfect angle all day . These values are the amount of grams saved when compared to a standard box section rim (Mavic Open Pro - 32 Spokes).
FLO CLIMBER
NDRV: 78.3 grams - 31.3 seconds over a 40km time trial OR 2 minutes and 21 seconds over an Ironman.
Optimal Reduction: 88.3 grams - 35.3 seconds over a 40km time trial OR 2 minutes and 39 seconds over an Ironman.
FLO 60
NDRV: 175.3 grams - 70.1 seconds over a 40km time trial OR 5 minutes and 16 seconds over an Ironman.
Optimal Reduction: 210.1 grams - 84.0 seconds over a 40km time trial OR 6 minutes and 18 seconds over an Ironman.
FLO 90
NDRV: 172.1 grams - 68.8 seconds over a 40km time trial OR 5 minutes and 10 seconds over an Ironman.
Optimal Reduction: 202.1 grams - 80.9 seconds over a 40km time trial OR 6 minutes and 04 seconds over an Ironman.
FLO DISC
NDRV: 253.7 grams - 101.5 seconds over a 40km time trial OR 7 minutes and 37 seconds over an Ironman.
Optimal Reduction: 319.9 grams - 128.0 seconds over a 40km time trial OR 9 minutes and 36 seconds over an Ironman
Below are the NDRV of our FLO wheels and the optimal reduction value assuming mother nature is only blowing at the perfect angle all day . These values are the amount of grams saved when compared to a standard box section rim (Mavic Open Pro - 32 Spokes).
FLO CLIMBER
NDRV: 78.3 grams - 31.3 seconds over a 40km time trial OR 2 minutes and 21 seconds over an Ironman.
Optimal Reduction: 88.3 grams - 35.3 seconds over a 40km time trial OR 2 minutes and 39 seconds over an Ironman.
FLO 60
NDRV: 175.3 grams - 70.1 seconds over a 40km time trial OR 5 minutes and 16 seconds over an Ironman.
Optimal Reduction: 210.1 grams - 84.0 seconds over a 40km time trial OR 6 minutes and 18 seconds over an Ironman.
FLO 90
NDRV: 172.1 grams - 68.8 seconds over a 40km time trial OR 5 minutes and 10 seconds over an Ironman.
Optimal Reduction: 202.1 grams - 80.9 seconds over a 40km time trial OR 6 minutes and 04 seconds over an Ironman.
FLO DISC
NDRV: 253.7 grams - 101.5 seconds over a 40km time trial OR 7 minutes and 37 seconds over an Ironman.
Optimal Reduction: 319.9 grams - 128.0 seconds over a 40km time trial OR 9 minutes and 36 seconds over an Ironman
ok we all know that zipp 404s are faster, but by how much? 1-2 mph faster than training wheels (easton vistas or similar)?
i never train with zipps but have a few training buddies that do. if i'm always on my training wheels and they're on their race wheels, clearly, they have the advantage right? training rides are not a competition, but my buddies ride it like it is! ;-)
i never train with zipps but have a few training buddies that do. if i'm always on my training wheels and they're on their race wheels, clearly, they have the advantage right? training rides are not a competition, but my buddies ride it like it is! ;-)
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