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Old 10-13-11, 01:16 PM
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Given my location and limited exposure, of the ones I know-

home schoolers = snake handlers.
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Originally Posted by Psimet2001 View Post
Not saying home schooling is impossible.....just saying there is no way in hell I would consider myself even remotely capable of teaching my son....and I'm not exactly an idiot.
There's no doubt you could easily teach your kid from an academic point of view, better than the public school system.

Originally Posted by TMonk View Post
Ya I feel like alot of the value of public education isn't intellectual or academic, it's social.
Herein lies the problem, IMHO.
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Originally Posted by shovelhd View Post
Have a PBR.
Is that your answer for everything? You must be a cross racer.
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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh View Post
There's no doubt you could easily teach your kid from an academic point of view, better than the public school system.



Herein lies the problem, IMHO.
no offense to rob, but it really depends on the school district.
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Originally Posted by botto View Post
homeschooling is much like going to the 41, to learn about all things bike related.

but, generally, dumber.
almost sig worthy..
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Originally Posted by kensuf View Post
Is that your answer for everything? You must be a cross racer.
pbr isn't that bad. if anything, i'm sure it's a hell of a lot better than that pumpkin crap you imbibe.
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Old 10-13-11, 01:49 PM
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I only drink it one month a year. It's my way of celebrating fall.

And yes, I know for cheap beer PBR's not half bad. It's definitely a lot better than Steel...
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Old 10-13-11, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by botto View Post
no offense to rob, but it really depends on the school district.
That is the TRUTH.
Check out our kids public school district.
You couldn't pay a private school enough to get a better education.
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Originally Posted by kensuf View Post
Is that your answer for everything? You must be a cross racer.
No, and no. Worse. I'm a commuter.
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Originally Posted by Homebrew01 View Post
Or Genny Cream Ale
Good Gawd. Next it will be "Vitamin I" as we go down the list.
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Originally Posted by shovelhd View Post
no, and no. Worse. I'm a closet hipster.
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Originally Posted by YMCA View Post
That is the TRUTH.
Check out our kids public school district.
You couldn't pay a private school enough to get a better education.
you "lucked" out. Scardsdale and Greeley represent maybe 0.1% of the public schools out there.
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PBR is way better than anything made by Genny.
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Originally Posted by YMCA View Post
That is the TRUTH.
Check out our kids public school district.
You couldn't pay a private school enough to get a better education.
No offense to YMCA, but that's the kind of response I'd expect from a union guy.

There are good schools and not so good schools, public and private. Overall, though, the quality of education in this country has declined to alarming levels. When a university has to offer arithmetic in freshman math classes, that's a problem.
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Old 10-13-11, 02:24 PM
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As someone who once taught remedial English at a junior college, I agree that our educational system sucks.

How does one graduate HS or acquire a GED without knowing the difference between a verb and a noun or how to construct a complete sentence, let alone write a whole paragraph?
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Originally Posted by shovelhd View Post
No offense to YMCA, but that's the kind of response I'd expect from a union guy.

There are good schools and not so good schools, public and private. Overall, though, the quality of education in this country has declined to alarming levels. When a university has to offer arithmetic in freshman math classes, that's a problem.
wut?
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Old 10-13-11, 02:35 PM
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International Brotherhood of Paceline Workers. A major force behind Occupy Wallstreet.
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Originally Posted by shovelhd View Post
No offense to YMCA, but that's the kind of response I'd expect from a union guy.

There are good schools and not so good schools, public and private. Overall, though, the quality of education in this country has declined to alarming levels. When a university has to offer arithmetic in freshman math classes, that's a problem.
the particular school to which he was referring (either Scarsdale or Greeley) is heads and shoulders above most private schools. Not that enrollment of alumni at elite schools is a good indicator as class size differs wildly from high school to high school, but the only schools that send more kids to the elite universities are the likes of Andover and Stuyvesant.

Belmont in the Boston suburbs is also very similar in character.
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Originally Posted by TMonk View Post
Ya I feel like alot of the value of public education isn't intellectual or academic, it's social.
+1 a bazillion. Same could be said for college. I suppose I learned some stuff in college but what I really learned was what the "outside world" was like.

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home schoolers = snake handlers.
One family that I know of has done remarkably well, and they've singlehandledly changed my thoughts on homeschoolilng (i.e. that it's all bad).

But in general I can't see parents having as much education as what's offered in school. It would be a full time job to try and keep up. I know that if I were home schooling kids they wouldn't get much in the way of classic literature, art, etc, because I don't know that stuff.

Granted I went to a very good public school, before gov't tried to grade them. It's a very white bread town - so white bread that a person that lived there for a year wrote a fictional story about the town - The Stepford Wives. But man they have a great school system.

I learned to write in, get this, HISTORY in 6th grade. "I'm officially your US History teacher but I'm going to teach you how to write, using US History as the subject matter." Not exactly what he said on the first day of school but close to it. It seems like we were writing a paper every week, but it was probably every month.

I learned to think about complicated conversion problems in Chemistry in 9th grade. Another teach that said something off-base, like "You're going to learn Chemistry here because that's what you're supposed to learn, but I'm going to teach you how to think."

I consider those two teachers the best I ever had, as far as me learning.

I have a few favorite teachers too because they made me feel important and such but they didn't teach as much as they allowed me to explore a bit.
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Originally Posted by TMonk View Post
Ya I feel like alot of the value of public education isn't intellectual or academic, it's social.
smoke a lot of weed, before your english classes?
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Originally Posted by shovelhd View Post
No offense to YMCA, but that's the kind of response I'd expect from a union guy.

There are good schools and not so good schools, public and private. Overall, though, the quality of education in this country has declined to alarming levels. When a university has to offer arithmetic in freshman math classes, that's a problem.
I am very anti-Union.

I agree the overall health of education is a major concern in this country.

My wife and I picked our house exactly because Scarsdale High has a reputation well beyond anything else public, or private.
It's just a matter of having some means and making the right choices.
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International Brotherhood of Paceline Workers. A major force behind Occupy Wallstreet.
ha...
Now I see where the Union crack may have come from.
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PBR is way better than anything made by Genny.
splitting hairs.
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Originally Posted by YMCA View Post
I am very anti-Union.

I agree the overall health of education is a major concern in this country.

My wife and I picked our house exactly because Scarsdale High has a reputation well beyond anything else public, or private.
It's just a matter of having some means and making the right choices.
I guess it was a bad joke on your avatar. Go ahead and boo me. I won't quit my day job.

I am not pro or anti-union. Sometimes they do good things, sometimes they don't.

FWIW both of my kids attend(ed) private school. My oldest was so well prepared that he finds half of his college classes boring. He makes up for it by working two jobs and taking enough classes for a minor, possibly two.

I've seen the good and not so good of both public and private secondary education. There are stars in both systems.
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Don't get me started on the US HS system.

I hate it.

Really smart kids come out of it and go to college to study engineering and they don't know anything and all or their thinking is fuzzy. It is very painful for both them and me to "get their minds right". (OK, I went with the "Cool Hand Luke" movie quote instead of the obvious one from "The Paper Chase" ... 'skull full of mush', etc.)
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