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Old 09-19-11, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Nate552
No damage I can see on the case. Thanks for the UPS tip, I didn't know that. Luckily, I ship it Fedex 99% of the time. As for flying with it, I can't afford that. I'm often traveling multiple times a month and at ~$100 each way, I'd have to find a new sport.
I think all the shipping companies use similar conveyer roller setups.

If you travel that much couplers may be worth it. Zinn's setup allows him to pack his bike without taking the stem off the steerer, the bars off the stem (the two things that take the longest to put together), and probably pack everything in a non-oversize case. You'll have to do a frame in Ti or steel though, stem as well.

I only fly a few round trips a year - I find Southwest's $50 each way fee to be a good compromise between airlines and bike fees. It's still a bit of money though.
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Originally Posted by carpediemracing
I think all the shipping companies use similar conveyer roller setups.

If you travel that much couplers may be worth it. Zinn's setup allows him to pack his bike without taking the stem off the steerer, the bars off the stem (the two things that take the longest to put together), and probably pack everything in a non-oversize case. You'll have to do a frame in Ti or steel though, stem as well.

I only fly a few round trips a year - I find Southwest's $50 each way fee to be a good compromise between airlines and bike fees. It's still a bit of money though.
I've thought about a Ritchey breakaway, but those go for $1200, and I already had a spare bike, so I went with the shipping route. Southwest does have better than most fees, but the only airlines that fly out of where I live are Continental and American. Both have hefty oversized fees.
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Originally Posted by Racer Ex
Yes, his son was there. Both very nice people; he really enjoys talking to people in general and it's always fun to watch people's reaction when you tell them who that guy over there is.
Scott knows me as the guy that asked for an autograph then had three cameras that didn't work. Greg gave Scott his camera, then emailed Scott the pic so Scott could email it to me. When he saw me this year he almost laughed, like a "oh no it's this guy again" in a good way.

We tried to get time with Lemond. Scott is one of the entry points to his calender; his agent is the other. Both seemed like really good guys.

I was wondering if Scott rode, and if he rode, how he rode. He automatically has pressure on him, being Lemond's son.
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Originally Posted by Nate552
I've thought about a Ritchey breakaway, but those go for $1200, and I already had a spare bike, so I went with the shipping route. Southwest does have better than most fees, but the only airlines that fly out of where I live are Continental and American. Both have hefty oversized fees.
I figured that you flew out of a non-Southwest airport. I'm lucky, I live near one. Other reasons for flying other airlines are business (the company pays for Delta or American etc).

Not sure if you know any brazers around your area but a clapped out frame, cut up, couplers, that may be worth it.
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Originally Posted by carpediemracing
Scott knows me as the guy that asked for an autograph then had three cameras that didn't work. Greg gave Scott his camera, then emailed Scott the pic so Scott could email it to me. When he saw me this year he almost laughed, like a "oh no it's this guy again" in a good way.

We tried to get time with Lemond. Scott is one of the entry points to his calender; his agent is the other. Both seemed like really good guys.

I was wondering if Scott rode, and if he rode, how he rode. He automatically has pressure on him, being Lemond's son.
if he's anything like his brother, then he's good. very good.
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Originally Posted by carpediemracing
I was wondering if Scott rode, and if he rode, how he rode. He automatically has pressure on him, being Lemond's son.
He was pretty much just another guy chugging along. He hung with us, we were doing more of a support function and riding with Greg to have him at the rest rest stops so people could get pics and autographs. Doesn't look like he's taking cycling too seriously, just enjoyed hanging out with his dad.
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Hey look at that, Ex has a blue star too.
Now I see this clearly. My whole life is pointed in one direction. There never has been a choice for me. Listen, you ********, you screwheads. Here is a man who would not take it anymore. A man who stood up against the scum, the ****, the dogs, the filth, the ****. Here is a man who stood up.

I gotta get in shape. Too much sitting has ruined my body. Too much abuse has gone on for too long. From now on there will be 50 pushups each morning, 50 pullups. There will be no more pills, no more bad food, no more destroyers of my body. From now on will be total organization. Every muscle must be tight.
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Now I see this clearly. My whole life is pointed in one direction. There never has been a choice for me. Listen, you ********, you screwheads. Here is a man who would not take it anymore. A man who stood up against the scum, the ****, the dogs, the filth, the ****. Here is a man who stood up.

I gotta get in shape. Too much sitting has ruined my body. Too much abuse has gone on for too long. From now on there will be 50 pushups each morning, 50 pullups. There will be no more pills, no more bad food, no more destroyers of my body. From now on will be total organization. Every muscle must be tight.
So I should skip the 3rd brownie, and ride more than twice a week ?
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So I should skip the 3rd brownie, and ride more than twice a week ?
You talkin to me?
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Originally Posted by miwoodar
You know...studies have shown that dihydrogen-monoxide is a huge training aid. Injestion is a major part of professional cyclist's programs. Riding in the stuff is required to become 1's and 2's.

The team's end of the year party was tonight. The presenters, two teammates, were seriously funny (no surprise). I was honored to take home the most aggessive rider award. Throwing in the best colorado cyclist was icing on the cake. I am grateful for the efforts of my teammates. I took some spotlights that would not have been possible without them. Thank you. What a welcome intro to the sport!
Sweet! Congrats!
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Originally Posted by Nate552
$*)!@#$(()*)(&^**%&$# I guess you can pack and ship a carbon bike in a Trico case only so many times before something happens. It did last 3 years of being shipped around the country though. But now I need another travel bike. Preferably a cheap aluminum frame.

Crap! Sorry to see this.
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Originally Posted by Racer Ex
You talkin to me?
i wondered if you two are related

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Originally Posted by gsteinb
bunch of new mods in town, actually.
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Originally Posted by echappist
i wondered if you two are related

They changed the spelling as a CYA.
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Yes, his son was there. Both very nice people; he really enjoys talking to people in general and it's always fun to watch people's reaction when you tell them who that guy over there is.

Ride was a blast, other than having do to the first climb twice thanks to a mechanical issue on the new bike. Echelon puts on a top notch event...I had smoked salmon on my bagel.

Group took off with him down Kings Mountain Rd and pretty much did the Moto GP thing on the way down. Ended up being Greg, me and my teammate pretty far OTF. My parting words before we took off were "don't be the guy who takes Lemond out in one of the hairpins".
What a great opportunity. Very cool.

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I've thought about a Ritchey breakaway, but those go for $1200, and I already had a spare bike, so I went with the shipping route. Southwest does have better than most fees, but the only airlines that fly out of where I live are Continental and American. Both have hefty oversized fees.
Looking at that crack, I think Kirklee in Austin (along with Calfee, and probably Crumpton) would like a shot at fixing that. My friend and neighbor had an Opal repaired at Kirklee. Cracks similar to yours, but across both chainstays -- fixed and painted for $400 out the door. He's been riding it for two years since the repair, and it's perfect. Really great work there with a solid engineering approach for the original design of the frame, so you don't end up making some repaired piece too rigid for the joints that surround it, for instance.

Being in the shop really made me want a Kirklee frame too. It's a total slobber fest in there.
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There I was in P&R ready for some combat and I see Racer Ex and gsteinb are made mods. So which one of you gets to set the 41 straight?

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There I was in P&R ready for some combat and I see Racer Ex and gsteinb are made mods. So which one of you gets to set the 41 straight?

I really found I didn't have time for it over there. Becoming a mod effectively ended my participation in the 41 after a couple weeks. Keeping up with the nonsense, trying to maintain my arguments/entertainment, searching for Trek threads to poop on, then trying to moderate, was all just too much.
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Originally Posted by waterrockets
Looking at that crack, I think Kirklee in Austin (along with Calfee, and probably Crumpton) would like a shot at fixing that. My friend and neighbor had an Opal repaired at Kirklee. Cracks similar to yours, but across both chainstays -- fixed and painted for $400 out the door. He's been riding it for two years since the repair, and it's perfect. Really great work there with a solid engineering approach for the original design of the frame, so you don't end up making some repaired piece too rigid for the joints that surround it, for instance.

Being in the shop really made me want a Kirklee frame too. It's a total slobber fest in there.
I sent them an email earlier for a quote.
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Originally Posted by roadiejorge
There I was in P&R ready for some combat and I see Racer Ex and gsteinb are made mods. So which one of you gets to set the 41 straight?

as someone who's spent time there, my advice is this: don't bother.
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Originally Posted by botto
as someone who's spent time there, my advice is this: don't bother.
It's a circle jerk without a doubt though fitting since it mirrors politics in the real world.



Originally Posted by waterrockets
I really found I didn't have time for it over there. Becoming a mod effectively ended my participation in the 41 after a couple weeks. Keeping up with the nonsense, trying to maintain my arguments/entertainment, searching for Trek threads to poop on, then trying to moderate, was all just too much.
those were enjoyable
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Originally Posted by waterrockets
I really found I didn't have time for it over there. Becoming a mod effectively ended my participation in the 41 after a couple weeks. Keeping up with the nonsense, trying to maintain my arguments/entertainment, searching for Trek threads to poop on, then trying to moderate, was all just too much.
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In this case, it is a tumor.
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Originally Posted by roadiejorge
It's a circle jerk without a doubt though fitting since it mirrors politics in the real world.


those were enjoyable
Did you see the recent one where the guy had a crusty 1984 Trek with a bent frame which he thought should be warranty?
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I don't think I would make a good mod. I would get angry and start throwing people.

Bummer about the bike BTW, Nate. Hopefully the plastic repair folks will work out!
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