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retul fittings and other fitting and nagging knee pain. (a carry on from road cycling

Old 06-15-11, 01:35 PM
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retul fittings and other fitting and nagging knee pain. (a carry on from road cycling

I have been fit 3 times since I started riding 10 weeks ago. The first 2 were from the right hand side. the 3rd was from the left hand side.

heres the problem. I have had left anterior knee pain on and below the knee cap for 9 weeks. rode like that some days couldnt hardly push anything below a 50-28. finally On my third fit I had him do My left side first since Im left handed and all. He lowered the sadlle a bit and added angled shims to my shoes. 2 days later no pain what so ever in my left knee. ( i rode with pain for 9weeks) and suddenly all gone. Then 2 days later the crazy pain i had in my left knee was now located exactly the same in my right knee. its so horrible i can hardly wal kor pedal.

What Im taking from this is this

1/2 fittings left knee hurts like hell right knee awesome.

3rd fitting to adjust left side brings saddle down a bit.

2 days later left knee is like new. strong, pain free.

2 more days later right knee is now unbearable.

So apparently my left leg is shorter than my right knee which meant the reason for left knee pain was it was to straight while right one was perfect position.
then when the seat got lowered the left knee was put into proper position and right leg now became to low of angle. to much bend. Im just guessing. but if anyone has a better explanation let me know cause I can ride 3 times a day and want to, but this knee pain and 3 fittings later is enough to make me give it up. I want to race and race often but i cant if i cant even clip into my pedals without pain.

left leg shorter than right equals = improper breeding in family. lol

seriously though does anyone have any recommendations. I'm thinkibng about getting retul fitting. will it help fix this and locate the problem. someone else was trying to get me to do a wobble something fitting. dont understand the difference. can anyone point me in the right direction. should I post this in the road racing forum also.
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If you in fact have a leg length discrepancy then you can use shims to adjust...

Did the fitter add shims to under side of the cleats?? If so those same shims can be installed to shim for heights....You just flip them...I'm thinking LeWedges here...

I believe Speedplay also makes flat shims to correct leg length...Of course that only helps if you are on Speedplay...
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Most people have a leg length discrepancy. Mine's small, like 3/8 inch, and I just ignore it.

I'd be tempted to start by looking at the measurements that the fitters set the saddle position to and perhaps trying something in between the last two.

Also, doing too much too fast can make your knees hurt even if your position is good.
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Like I said there has been absolutley no pain in my right knee even after over 2k miles in first 8 weeks. It wasn't untill they lowered th saddle to put my left leg in proper position that it threw off my right one. So I figure my left is shorter than my right for obvious reasons as I mentioned in my previous post
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There is a saying that "fitness = fit". The more weeks into it you go, the more these pains will either (a) become obvious as to their cause, or (b) go away because you have worked through them, fitness wise. Very slight fit differences will also have much less affect on you as your fitness improves. And did the fitter change anything but the seat height? Is your seat perfectly straight? Knee pain isn't always related solely to seat height. Fore and aft placement can have an affect, any slight change in cleat position, etc. The saddle position change could be causing you to turn your hips or your legs differently, stressing slightly different muscles/tendons. Sometimes you adapt and that sort of pain goes away; sometimes it doesn't, and you have to change your fit. It can be hard to tell between the two. Isn't fit fun?
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Retul Fit

I had a bike fit by Retul in Denver this past winter. I also had a leg length issue, which the evaluated before I was actually on the bike. Their fit is very precise and bi-lateral. The bike actually sat on a rotating platform and the computer camera evaluated my fit from both sides. I feel very comfortable on the bike for the first time in a long time.

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Westminster, CO

Originally Posted by JAMES_AMTRAK
I have been fit 3 times since I started riding 10 weeks ago. The first 2 were from the right hand side. the 3rd was from the left hand side.

heres the problem. I have had left anterior knee pain on and below the knee cap for 9 weeks. rode like that some days couldnt hardly push anything below a 50-28. finally On my third fit I had him do My left side first since Im left handed and all. He lowered the sadlle a bit and added angled shims to my shoes. 2 days later no pain what so ever in my left knee. ( i rode with pain for 9weeks) and suddenly all gone. Then 2 days later the crazy pain i had in my left knee was now located exactly the same in my right knee. its so horrible i can hardly wal kor pedal.

What Im taking from this is this

1/2 fittings left knee hurts like hell right knee awesome.

3rd fitting to adjust left side brings saddle down a bit.

2 days later left knee is like new. strong, pain free.

2 more days later right knee is now unbearable.

So apparently my left leg is shorter than my right knee which meant the reason for left knee pain was it was to straight while right one was perfect position.
then when the seat got lowered the left knee was put into proper position and right leg now became to low of angle. to much bend. Im just guessing. but if anyone has a better explanation let me know cause I can ride 3 times a day and want to, but this knee pain and 3 fittings later is enough to make me give it up. I want to race and race often but i cant if i cant even clip into my pedals without pain.

left leg shorter than right equals = improper breeding in family. lol

seriously though does anyone have any recommendations. I'm thinkibng about getting retul fitting. will it help fix this and locate the problem. someone else was trying to get me to do a wobble something fitting. dont understand the difference. can anyone point me in the right direction. should I post this in the road racing forum also.
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Originally Posted by Dr.B.
I had a bike fit by Retul in Denver this past winter. I also had a leg length issue, which the evaluated before I was actually on the bike. Their fit is very precise and bi-lateral. The bike actually sat on a rotating platform and the computer camera evaluated my fit from both sides. I feel very comfortable on the bike for the first time in a long time.

Mike
Westminster, CO
I've had two fittings. I have several certified Retul fitters in my area...the price keeps me thinking twice as to how they are going to improve what has been done.

I would be more interested in hearing their theories and principles as to how a bike should fit, rather a bunch of computers and sensors that you spin round in circles to get photos and so forth.

The technology is only as good as the principle behind it and the theory of best fit. Like, power output? Comfort? Race proven pros positions?

In short, how do they determine what the best fit is?

Their website isn't real specific either that I could find.

I'm willing to spend the money if I can guarantee that this time around, there is actual comfort, performance gains and bio-mechanical issues resolved with Retul.

Thanks
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