USA Cycling; Screwing Itself
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I hadn't read botto's post carefully yet. Now it's all perfectly clear.
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I dont see a lot of people sporting fake teams.. of course I wouldn't know every single team but majority of riders I see, I would guess they are real "teams" I.e., they pay their USAC dues, and they put on at least 1 race a year. Is there something more to this that I'm missing.
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There was a guy in the 1/2/3 stage race we did this weekend decked out in a "The Shack" kit. No, he wasn't one of their guys.
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I believe he was a 2 as well. Apparently the cops were called in as well about the SoFla guy who rode crashed out while chasing the break and the he claimed to the officials that he was actually in the break - he was dq'ed and the was almost a fight over it.
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The whole idea of sponsorship at the Club level is laughable anyway. What demographic are you really reaching? And how many exposures are you really getting?
How much money are you getting from sponsors? And do you feel good about their investment?
With no print media coverage, no TV coverage, and very little Internet presence, the sponsor's return is nil.
So the rules that govern this are pretty worthless anyway.
How much money are you getting from sponsors? And do you feel good about their investment?
With no print media coverage, no TV coverage, and very little Internet presence, the sponsor's return is nil.
So the rules that govern this are pretty worthless anyway.
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The whole idea of sponsorship at the Club level is laughable anyway. What demographic are you really reaching? And how many exposures are you really getting?
How much money are you getting from sponsors? And do you feel good about their investment?
With no print media coverage, no TV coverage, and very little Internet presence, the sponsor's return is nil.
So the rules that govern this are pretty worthless anyway.
How much money are you getting from sponsors? And do you feel good about their investment?
With no print media coverage, no TV coverage, and very little Internet presence, the sponsor's return is nil.
So the rules that govern this are pretty worthless anyway.
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The whole idea of sponsorship at the Club level is laughable anyway. What demographic are you really reaching? And how many exposures are you really getting?
How much money are you getting from sponsors? And do you feel good about their investment?
With no print media coverage, no TV coverage, and very little Internet presence, the sponsor's return is nil.
So the rules that govern this are pretty worthless anyway.
How much money are you getting from sponsors? And do you feel good about their investment?
With no print media coverage, no TV coverage, and very little Internet presence, the sponsor's return is nil.
So the rules that govern this are pretty worthless anyway.
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You ever try to read a moving billboard that you didn't already know what it said?
I can't even read half the names on jerseys at the start line.
I can't even read half the names on jerseys at the start line.
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ok thats just weird to wear a pro team kit in anything but the 5s. i was thinking more this was about rogue teams putting corporate sponsors on kits without putting on races to earn their "team" status.
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I buy stuff at my sponsor's shops. I drink my sponsor's beer. I snowboard at my sponsor's hill. I don't think I'm the only one.
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if I need a new water heater it will be a RUUD
mainly because they are good quality though. The sponsorship comes from a regional distributor, so there isn't much I can do other than wear my kit all the time (which I do)
mainly because they are good quality though. The sponsorship comes from a regional distributor, so there isn't much I can do other than wear my kit all the time (which I do)
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I'm a newb, and out of ignorance I just violated this rule in my first Cat4 races this past weekend. I'm not attached to a USAC team, so I wore my coaching company kit. I don't even have a blank kit. The OP point is valid - I'll clean up my act and get a blank jersey if I'm not affiliated by my next race in August.
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I'm a newb, and out of ignorance I just violated this rule in my first Cat4 races this past weekend. I'm not attached to a USAC team, so I wore my coaching company kit. I don't even have a blank kit. The OP point is valid - I'll clean up my act and get a blank jersey if I'm not affiliated by my next race in August.
As a CAT 4 just get out and race. Don't worry about the kit so much. Get on a team and that will all take care of itself.
As for having worn something outside of the guidelines...it tells everyone else in the pack that you're new and not aware of the guidelines. Like wearing orange for a hunter.
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I'm a newb, and out of ignorance I just violated this rule in my first Cat4 races this past weekend. I'm not attached to a USAC team, so I wore my coaching company kit. I don't even have a blank kit. The OP point is valid - I'll clean up my act and get a blank jersey if I'm not affiliated by my next race in August.
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This does mean jerseys need to be designed well.
Also guys in their kit at the local coffee shop or stopped at a light etc.
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I absolutely pay attention to who is paying for spots on jerseys, especially at the local level. I'm less likely to buy my batteries at Radio Shack because they sponsor a pro team, than I am to use a doctor, rehab center, lawyer, financial planner, etc that I see on a local team's jersey. Ditto for companies that donate prime prizes.