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Tour of America - Your 20 Stages

Old 11-19-04, 01:08 PM
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Tour of America - Your 20 Stages

If there were ever to be a three week, twenty stage grand tour held in the U.S., where would you stage it? What would your twenty stages be? I'm sure there's some majestic climbs (I known know, my location and all), great landmarks, and great finishes for bunch sprints. I'd like to know what mountain stages you'd think would fit in, but I'd also like to read suggestions for good finishes for sprinters and rolling stages too.
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They are already going to hold it- it's the United Texas Tour, and the Discovery team AND Lance Armstrong are committed to riding the tour (next year will be the first annual).

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Last I heard, the Texas Tour will be held in Texas. BTW, Roger Hammond has indicated he may be on the team for that race.

A Tour of America is logistically difficult, but I think it would have to go over some of the major passes in the Rockies, also along the Platte River, and maybe into the Appalachian Mtns. I think there would be quite a bit of traveling from one stage to the next if they expected to traverse the US.

If it ever happened, I'd like to see them go from Las Vegas up into Utah, through Colorado, Nebraska, Iowa, Illinois, something like that.
 
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They'd have to go through Hocking Hills in Ohio. Those are some grueling "rolling" hills and very beautiful.

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Agreed that there'd be quite a bit of transfer time. I just think there's a wealth of venues in the U.S. that could make a really great 2-3 week tour for fans and riders alike.

What a site it'd be to see a peloton rolling down the strip in Vegas. Talk about BRIGHT!
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Originally Posted by gcasillo

What a site it'd be to see a peloton rolling down the strip in Vegas. Talk about BRIGHT!
God help them...

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That would be a cool prologue type event. You could have it at night, with everything lit up so it wouldn't be 120 degrees. I can't imagine many riders would be too thrilled about having a real stage with it being so hot in Vegas most of the year. (Or you could have a crit style or circuit stage at night there, that would be a sight to see)
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i would love to see something down the west coast. from seattle down to L.A. or something like that. san fran would offer some interesting short but steep climbs and the coastal areas would be beautiful.

then, of couse, they can fly to nyc for a ride though manhattan (mostly so i could watch!). i'm thinking that would make a great final stage.
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Way cool, divekrb. Thanks for sharing that comprehensive setup. That's what I'm looking for. I only wish I knew more about the lay of the land in my area. Guess I need to get out of town farther!
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Some quick responses...1- New England. Boston to Lake Champlain, Vt.Through White and Green Mtns to Syracuse, NY thru the Aidrondics....2- Flight to Piedmont to cross mid-NC. to Tenn, crossing the Smokies..3- Traverse City Mich. across Mackinac Bridge across Lake Superior shore to Duluth ,Mn.4- Memphis, Tn. to New Orleans..5- St. Louis,Mo. to Kansas City, adj. Pony Express route...6- a segment following about 400 miles of the Rio Grande River in Texas. 7- Moab, UT. to Las Vegas( Monument Valley to Bryce) 8- Reno, Nv to Fresno, CA through Yosemite. 9- Santa Barbara,Ca to San Francisco, Ca. through Big Sur area....10- Eureka , Ca to (REdwoods) Coos Bay, OR..
rought draft here mind you.
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The beauty would be that you could change it up every year and send people through completely different parts of the country. I think you have to cover both the East and West coast as well as the mountains. The ending would be in DC but sets up a West to East route which would be faster (tail wind) but has the advantage of sending your through more mountains earlier. With flights you could cover both cost without to much trouble. You definetly need some midwest stages to make people feel like it is a tour of the US. I would think two really fun mountain time trial idea (note fun to watch not to ride) would be a dawn ride up Cadalic Mountain in Maine as it is the first place to see the sun rise in the US. Another Time trial for the last place to see it rise would be interesting on the West Coast. But the really fun MTT would be up Mount Washington. Probably a pretty unfair advantage to Tyler but still that is a heck fo a climb. Tyler won the race up it in 1997 in a time of 51:56 and it is only 7.6 miles, compared to Lances 39:41 9.6 miles at Alp Duez. I have got to think that is one of the hardest climbs around, but I would think it would be very interesting.
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Start in SF with a prologue from SF to San Jose
From San Jose to Fresno
Fresno to Yosemite
Crit around the long Yosemite Valley loop
Yosemite Valley to Mono Lake
Mono Lake to Lake Tahoe
that's about all i can think of for now...
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Mello...Agree, Calif. has the nation's finest cycling..Can't call that a Tour of America however.. The Tours in Europe skip about on train/plane to cover all corners of the countries involved..Should be the same here...
Mostly would be nice to be in scenic areas, with some challenges for the cyclists..
Ironically, I am told by fellow cyclists for the east coast..Some of the worst grades are in New England..Even worse than the Smokies...?
Big Sur, Yosemite, Redwoods, Death Valley, Redwood Coast, Sierra's , route of the Death ride from Death Valley to Mt. Witney, the Lake Tahoe loop...
Why does not California have its' own "Tour De California." We have as much variety as anywhere on the planet.
But, since France (TDF) is bigger than Texas, would our ride last the 20 some days.
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Old 11-20-04, 10:03 PM
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Jeez guys....there's more to America than the West Coast!!
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So many pro's train here, due to our fine weather..Just seems California should have its own Tour De California...That's all I say. Seems country would be too big for a national tour?
Hope I am wrong, not sure there is enough national interests, yet?
but, Mechanics at local bike shop told me, since Lance- they have never had the problem of not putting bikes together, fast enough.
To show the popularity of cycling in California..Look to the pic's posted by our member from Galena, NV.
of 9 pictures, I think 7 are of California scenes...I bet sponsors could put up enough support to start a California Tour.
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Boulder used to be the capital of pro racing in the U.S.
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i hear ya laggard
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Originally Posted by DXchulo
Jeez guys....there's more to America than the West Coast!!
i thought everything NOT on the west coast was Jesusland LOL


j/k

on a serious note, someone brought this up, but the US is far too vast to have a tour d'america imho. in CA alone, i think it'd be possible to have a race of the TdF caliber. I'd like to see an ITT going up Palomar Mountain in the San Diego area also, i think many states being skipped out on would lead to a bit of turmoil...for example, "why does oklahoma get to host a stage and florida doesn't" or something like that...
how would a tour from Maine to Key West be btw?

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Well, the TdF is going into Germany this year. Some years they dip into Italy and often Spain. Just because a state doesn't get a stage one year doesn't mean they can't land one the next year.

While I'm sure California has all the cycling love and more, I would hate to see a tour of this country stuck in just one area. With two rest/transfer days, I think you can get around to a lot of venues in the U.S. without much fuss. The college basketball tournament is a logistical exercise that gets pulled off year after year.
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I want a stage in New England. I nominate the Kancamangus Highway.
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All of Europe apparently loves cycling..You do not have a Tour De Europe...? maybe some states are more attunded to cycling than others...Some states that pass anti cycling legislation,maybe Don't deserve a 'Tour de America.'
All the cyclists we see in Calfifornia..We deserve one..Well, our roads could be better for cyclists- but beat our most of the US..
Cycle friendly...Who deserves the tour the most...
California, Oregon, Iowa ?
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bring back the tour du pont. rides through the NC Mountains would be nice.
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Originally Posted by don d.
Last I heard, the Texas Tour will be held in Texas. BTW, Roger Hammond has indicated he may be on the team for that race.

A Tour of America is logistically difficult, but I think it would have to go over some of the major passes in the Rockies, also along the Platte River, and maybe into the Appalachian Mtns. I think there would be quite a bit of traveling from one stage to the next if they expected to traverse the US.

If it ever happened, I'd like to see them go from Las Vegas up into Utah, through Colorado, Nebraska, Iowa, Illinois, something like that.
Yeah that would be a great route. Allthough a stage held somewhere in central California in view of the ocean would also be a must. The central Cali coast is some of the most beautiful realsate in the world.
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I wasn't asking who deserved to host stages. I was just interested to hear where people would like to see a stage take place.
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Don't know about the stages ... but one good route would be from the town of Bishop (CA), approximate el. 4000'. Up Hwy 395 via Sherwin Grade past the Mammoth Lakes turnoff, approximate el 7000'. Turn off and do the June Lake loop on Hwy 158 and reconnect on 395. Head to Hwy 120 and head west to Tioga Lake, el. 9700'.

Topo says: 84 mi, 10,500' climbing, start el: 4200', end el: 9745'

And the scenery, mtn biking, hiking, and trout fishing is awesome to boot ...
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