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Old 11-26-04, 08:43 AM
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Now Merckx says...

...that Lance is the greatest rider of all time and that we can't compare riders of different generations. Hmmmmm? Why the abrupt about face? I think he's been consulting his marketing people about sales in the biggest market in the world, the USA.

Also of note is his comment on team doctors and drug use. But how many times have we read of riders going to doctors outside the team for access to drugs? The Simeoni/Ferrari connection springs immediately to mind. Museeuw, Planckaert, et al were also purported to be involved with doctors/veterinarians outside their respective teams.

Is Merckx saying this to help smooth the way for Phonak now that they have jetisoned their doctor? What's up, Eddy?


www.procycling.com/news.aspx?ID=715

Also of note: Roger Hammond made honorary member of the Wolverhampton Wheelers.
 
Old 11-26-04, 07:08 PM
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Eddy's apparent modesty is an affectation. Debate is not required, the palmares make such talk redundant.

Second greatest?

Any of today's "specialists" think they can win a Tour mountain stage by 15 minutes and also win Paris -Roubaix? Stand up, Mr. Coppi!
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From CyclingNews.com:

Speaking to the media at the Spanish Cycling Journalism Award in Madrid on Wednesday, Eddy Merckx praised his personal friend Lance Armstrong to be "a better rider" than himself. The Belgian, who many consider to be the best cyclist of all time, said that "The Tour is the most important race and Lance is the one who won it most. I don't have a problem with the fact that he's topped me."

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I think it can be interpreted as better Tour rider. I admire Armstrong and all his accomplishments, but for Merckx to say LA is better strikes me as false modesty. Merckx dominated his era like no other rider ever has, not just in the Tour. When Merckx showed up, other riders knew they were racing for 2nd place.

And The Cannibal has the absolute coolest nickname of all time.
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All I know is whith the way he speaks about lance, there are some serios boycotts on his products.BTW, did Eddy ever admit to using drugs?
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Originally Posted by Gravityhatesme
All I know is whith the way he speaks about lance, there are some serios boycotts on his products.BTW, did Eddy ever admit to using drugs?
Was it proven somewhere that he used drugs?
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Its like comparing Terry Bradshaw or Joe Montana to tom Brady or Ben Rothliswhatever. You can't do it.Training was different...food was different... equipment was different...drugs were different. Oops...did I say that outloud...?
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Originally Posted by don d.
...that Lance is the greatest rider of all time and that we can't compare riders of different generations. Hmmmmm? Why the abrupt about face? I think he's been consulting his marketing people about sales in the biggest market in the world, the USA.
What does he lose by saying that? Nothing. Those who believe otherwise will continue to believe. Those who would like his endorsement of their opinion regarding Lance get the validation they want. And yes, it just so happens no small number of the latter are Americans.

Also, Lance has yet to create his own line (i.e., brand) of bikes. My bet is he will, and when he does Merckx might prefer not being one of his sworn enemies. I venture there is even the possibility of Lance aligning with Merckx instead of Trek. Can you imagine the appeal of a Armstrong-Merckx (or Merckx-Armstrong) brand of frames and bicycles? Hell, I might even buy one to replace my Litespeed! Yes, it was a very marketing-savvy move on E.M.'s part.

That said, I'll agree with E.M. when Lance has an Hour record under his belt. If he could throw in a Paris-Roubaix and another World Championship (road or ITT), I'll put my poster of him in the spot I now have Merckx's.
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Originally Posted by Maj.Taylor
Also, Lance has yet to create his own line (i.e., brand) of bikes. My bet is he will
From what I've heard, Lance isn't going to start his own line, but rather act as a consultant for Trek, who may make special "Lance Armstrong" editions of high-end frames, but they'll still technically be Treks. If so, Trek will carry products of both Americans that have won the Tour, which certainly couldn't hurt business.
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Originally Posted by Xtrmyorick
Trek will carry products of both Americans that have won the Tour, which certainly couldn't hurt business.
They already do...Lemond and TREK.

Remember, Trek is what LA rides and Americans have and will flock to a bike shop to own what he rides.

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Reporter: Ty, what kind of average would you hit for against these pitchers nowadays?

Ty Cobb: Oh probably 220 or so.

Reporter: But Ty, you had a lifetime 330 average! Surely you think you could hit higher than 220 against these guys!

Ty Cobb: Maybe, but I AM sixty f'ing three years old...
(numbers have been rounded due to my memory).
Maybe EM's just saying Lance is probably better right now?
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