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Old 12-02-04, 12:05 PM
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Lets talk about Lance and the Tour of Flanders.....

Lance rarely shows up to race unless he plans on winning, but I also hear here is going to help George Hincapie. Add in the Fact that Discovery Signed Roger Hammond (3rd @ Paris-Roubaix), Lief Hoste etc... and you have the Makings of a Classics Powerhouse squad....

Will they be riding for Lance, George, or Roger? Or will they try and spread the wealth around like Mapei used to.
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Very interesting. I think the team will ride for Lance in general, but if he's not good to go during a race, they'll work for whoever they think has the best shot of winning the race. I do believe that Lance will ride for George at Paris-Roubaix. That should be a damn good race. I think the one race Lance wants is Amstel.

I just hope he doesn't relegate his entire team to ride just for him as he has at the Tour. It'd be nice to see them work more for the TEAM than for just Lance. Flanders should be telling indeed.
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Lance mentioned that he wants George to win a major classic and that he will work for him to make it happen. The race that George really wants is obviously PR.

Dare I say that Lance may find it harder to win one day races than it is to win the TDF? At any given classic there are maybe 15 people capable of winning. The same can't be said of a grand tour.
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Will they be riding for Lance, George, or Roger? Or will they try and spread the wealth around like Mapei used to.[/QUOTE]

Over the last few years the likes of Mapei,Domo,Quick Step got as many guys in the final selections as possible then attacked like crazy. We all know what usually happened next.
It makes sense that discovery would adopt this strategy,can you imagine Hincapie,Armstrong,Hammond & Van Hejswyk(sp) up against the Belgains, Awesome. I hope Lance plays along. I think he can do very well in La Ronde and If he does he'll be really motivated to help George in P/R,assuming P/R is on the menu,
as a payback for Georges' steller tour work. I don't see Armstrong as a selfish rider but who knows.

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I think Lance really wants Flanders and Amstel. I think he will make a concentrated
run at those two. I also see strong support for George in Paris-Roubaix, a race
he (george) has wanted for his palmares.
I think that Discovery does show a strong classics team this year. I would
guess that they will spread the wealth, with Van Hejswyck having a particularly
strong year.

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So if Lance is racing Flanders, Roubaix, Amstel etc... Will he still ride the tour?
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If he wins Flanders and Amstel, he'll want to continue his good fortunes and ride the Tour. Otherwise, I'd have to say no.
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Originally Posted by Smoothie104
Will they be riding for Lance, George, or Roger?
I'd guess George would be the popular favorite, but it probably depends on how they're riding when the race comes around. After that, it'll come down luck and strategic choices (good or bad) as to what happens on race day (a la Hincapie and Boonen in '02).
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I'd really like to see Lance take a stab at the aforementioned spring classics and then the Giro. The idea of a Cunego-Basso-Armstrong battle is a great one. That would kick ass.
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Originally Posted by Smoothie104
So if Lance is racing Flanders, Roubaix, Amstel etc... Will he still ride the tour?
i hope so. i would love to see him do a full season. whatever happens. i don't think he'd do as well as many would predict/expect, but i'd just really like to see him in all the races, instead of just the 'big loop'.
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I hope he will ride a full season with all the (major) classics, and than the Giro or the Tour. So he can feel how it is to be a professional cyclist.
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You can't pre-arrange tactics for classics. It's who is the strongest on the day, who recovered best from the last rendezvous and how much did they put into it/are they saving for next week. Even with radio links, the final 30kms of Flanders, or Roubaix can be totally chaotic and impossible to control. Better to have good riders in each dangerous break, than attempt to control those breaks, on behalf of your designated leader. The races are so hard and the imponderables so numerous, old-school conservative tactics have never been entirely successful in April.

Hence the multi-headed approach adopted by Mapei, most notably, in recent years. By adding extra quality classics riders, Discovery may finally open up the door to a Hincapie or Armstrong win.

Of course, having more contenders in your team brings it's own problems.........
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Lance is perfect for the Ronde. If he shows up on song his Mr. Bookmaker odds will be awfully close to those of Van Petegem, Van Bon, Wesemann and twelve others.
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I wonder if the paris roubaix is too hard core for lance. it seems like theres a high chance that he could crash and hurt himself. I'm not sure that discovery would want that.
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Originally Posted by Laggard
Dare I say that Lance may find it harder to win one day races than it is to win the TDF? At any given classic there are maybe 15 people capable of winning. The same can't be said of a grand tour.
Yeah, there are so many more variables in single day races. Not that there aren't a million bad things that can happen in grand tours - but in grand tours, the 'best man' wins much more often than we see the strongest rider win in a single day race.
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If Lance starts in Flanders he has to beat 179 others.
How much in TDF ? 3,4 or 5 ?
But if he is, he's one of my favourites.
On the wall of Geraardsbergen, he will kick van peteghems ass and i'll be there.

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Originally Posted by chris roggeman
If Lance starts in Flanders he has to beat 179 others.
How much in TDF ? 3,4 or 5 ?
But if he is, he's one of my favourites.
On the wall of Geraardsbergen, he will kick van peteghems ass and i'll be there.

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oh my god, i live 20 miles of the wall and now i will ask, to impress you, a real amirican (PA) to send yoy some pictures about it.
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The Wall, Paterberg, Kwaremont and the one mentioned here on this sign... they are all close to where Chris lives. These are the roads he learned to ride on as a kid. I have visited him and ridden with his team several times. If you'd like to experience the same adventure, check out the Itinerary section at www.flanderscycling.com. You won't regret it!

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