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Mtn Mike 11-24-11 10:58 AM

Promoters - Finishline Status?
 
Let's see the finishlines at your club/team races. Anyone got any pictures? My group promotes grassroots racing in Eastern Washington. I want to take a step beyond the standard of duct tape and two cones that is so common at amateur bike race finishlines.

I don't want to see copied images of the finishes of the Pro-Tour, or Tour of Cali...We aren't Medalist Sports with a $30K+ budget just for the finishline. What I would like to see is something in between the two extremes. Do you use scaffolding, banners, barricades, fencing, or what?

Thanks for any help!

Okay...just one image from the ToC for motivation:

http://kbhr933.com/wp-content/upload...ar-Finish-.jpg

carpediemracing 11-24-11 07:01 PM

For me the best was two strips of black duct tape, one strip of white. Maybe it was 2 strips black, 1 strip white, then 2 strips black. This is for a low buck promoter.

Mtn Mike 11-24-11 07:26 PM


Originally Posted by carpediemracing (Post 13530138)
For me the best was two strips of black duct tape, one strip of white. Maybe it was 2 strips black, 1 strip white, then 2 strips black. This is for a low buck promoter.

Yeah, I like the look of 2-3 strips too. For modern cameras it really doesn't make a difference, but I still like the thicker look. What about scaffolding, fencing, and banners? Anyone?

JMR 11-24-11 07:32 PM

Get an inflatable arch.

Like this: http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/456286110/HJD_027_outdoor_inflatable_start_finish.html

JMR

carpediemracing 11-24-11 07:42 PM

Someone offered me that stuff. I declined. I'm too grassroots; I don't take myself that seriously.

Oh and I don't use the two cones, just the tape.

JMR 11-24-11 07:46 PM

Sometimes you NEED more than just tape though... like if the finish line is on or just over the crest of a hill and riders can't see the tape till they are just about on it.

JMR

Mtn Mike 11-25-11 12:04 AM


Originally Posted by carpediemracing (Post 13530245)
Someone offered me that stuff. I declined. I'm too grassroots; I don't take myself that seriously.

Oh and I don't use the two cones, just the tape.

Interesting point. I've never thought about being "too grassroots" to move to a more elaborate finishline. My thought was that racers will enjoy finishing at a cool finishline. I'm just brainstorming here, but I was thinking about adding music and a PA system as well (even for road races) to make the atmosphere more festive. You could be right though; racers might enjoy "grass roots" too. Who knows. The inflatable arch might be a little over the top, so to speak. It would be hard to use on a course that wasn't completely closed to traffic.

brian416 11-25-11 07:44 AM

Here's the finish line for my team's road race, crit finish is the same as well. As a racer, its a cool finish. The police hold off cars a ways out from both sides when racers are coming through. Frankie Andreu announces for us, which makes it even better.

The more elaborate you get, means a lot more time setting up and tearing down too.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...ubaixRR184.jpg

Mtn Mike 11-25-11 08:33 AM


Originally Posted by brian416 (Post 13531191)
Here's the finish line for my team's road race, crit finish is the same as well. As a racer, its a cool finish. The police hold off cars a ways out from both sides when racers are coming through. Frankie Andreu announces for us, which makes it even better.

The more elaborate you get, means a lot more time setting up and tearing down too.

Thanks Brian, looks good. Do you know if that section of the road is open to traffic during the race? There could be issues with a tall truck or farm equipment going under the overhead truss. We have access to a beam like that, but I don't think the county would let us put it up if the course was open to traffic. Of course, crits on a closed course would be a different story.

brian416 11-25-11 10:16 AM

Yep, the road is open. There are intersections about an 1/8th mile from each side where traffic was held up. There isn't too much traffic since its right on the edge of a really small town, no farm equipment in this area, mostly locals and tourists.

shovelhd 11-25-11 10:18 AM


Originally Posted by JMR (Post 13530256)
Sometimes you NEED more than just tape though... like if the finish line is on or just over the crest of a hill and riders can't see the tape till they are just about on it.

JMR

That's Bethel. It's not a problem because the officials tent is next to the line and you can see the tent from the base of the hill.

Mtn Mike 11-25-11 11:02 AM


Originally Posted by shovelhd (Post 13531469)
That's Bethel. It's not a problem because the officials tent is next to the line and you can see the tent from the base of the hill.

A tent for the officials adds to the visibility of the finish and adds professionalism, IMHO. As an official at other promoters' races, a tent is a nice courtesy and makes the job easier in rain or bright sun. Yeah, visibility also depends on how the road is curved and contoured. Sometimes the finishline is easily visible from 200M even without cones. Other times you have to be right on top of it. But I'm after a total spectacle for a finishline. Like you're joining a party when you finish the race....

mattm 11-25-11 05:09 PM

Seems like the ROI is not there, unless you have money to blow..

But I think the best finish lines are the ones that have big crowds around them, I don't care as much about banners/etc.

Inflatable arches seem like a recipe for disaster; deflation, wind, etc, etc.

agoodale 11-25-11 07:32 PM

Here's ours from the Tour de Murrieta:

http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...hmentid=228246

The nice part is that the race announcer, Ralph Elliot, brings all the rigging and helps you set it up. All you need to provide for him is the banner.

If you go with a banner: Bigger is better. Our 2010 banner was about 1/3 this size and looked pathetic hanging up there all alone.

We thought about getting the inflateable arch but decided against it for the same reasons mattm mentioned previously.

Mtn Mike 11-25-11 08:01 PM

Cool, thanks for the input everyone.

Creakyknees 11-26-11 07:38 PM

here's the Matrix Crit in Dallas. TXBRA Cup event, large ish budget, top notch event all around.

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5066/5...22f4a97a_z.jpg

My problem with banners / overheads is that they always end up restricting the width of the finish. As a racer, I'd rather have more real estate.

Creakyknees 11-26-11 07:40 PM

here's a more typical local / weeknight type setup; no finish camera (except if the ref's use their iphones)

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5314/5...e2f0afbd_z.jpg

Creakyknees 11-26-11 07:43 PM

a TXBRA cup road race - the white tent is at the finish line, camera / line is on the near side.

http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4128/5...6873586a_z.jpg

Mtn Mike 11-27-11 08:54 AM


Originally Posted by Creakyknees (Post 13535482)
a TXBRA cup road race - the white tent is at the finish line, camera / line is on the near side.

This looks a lot like our finishes. The line of cones is a nice touch, but would take a long time to set up for what they are. I know what you're saying about banners restricting with width. Another problem with restricting with width is that big trucks and farm equipment might take the whole thing out. We race in farm county and need to worry about those things.

Mtn Mike 11-27-11 10:23 AM

Here are a few pictures of our finishes for reference.

Here's a bad picture of the finishline at one of our crits.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7143/6...25819a1f_z.jpg

And here's a bad picture of one of our road race finishes. They aren't finishing here, only coming through on the first lap.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7013/6...1b7e980c_z.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7010/6...59522b83_z.jpg

waterrockets 11-27-11 10:41 AM

A quick search didn't turn up a bigger image, but here's the weekly Driveway Series finish:

http://llphotos.twitvid.com/twitvidt.../QXGCX_med.jpg

Dolamite02 11-27-11 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by waterrockets (Post 13536905)
A quick search didn't turn up a bigger image, but here's the weekly Driveway Series finish:

http://llphotos.twitvid.com/twitvidt.../QXGCX_med.jpg

My buddy and teammate was the last one to successfully get through there when it collapsed in a prime lap at Alsatian last year. The guy right behind him wasn't so fortunate; I understand he did an endo as the front of his bike was caught by the banner.

Dolamite02 11-27-11 01:29 PM

Incidentally- We're really looking forward to coming back next year; ya'll do a fantastic job promoting.

Mtn Mike 11-27-11 01:37 PM


Originally Posted by Dolamite02 (Post 13537382)
My buddy and teammate was the last one to successfully get through there when it collapsed in a prime lap at Alsatian last year. The guy right behind him wasn't so fortunate; I understand he did an endo as the front of his bike was caught by the banner.

:eek:

Dolamite02 11-27-11 03:28 PM

After rereading my post, I should clarify, WR, I meant that with all sincerity. On second read, it sounded like I was being sarcastic.


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