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Old 02-09-12, 04:08 PM
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Florida Clean Ride Fund

Postby jzimlin » Tue Feb 07, 2012 5:46 pm
http://www.floridacleanridefund.com/

The Florida Road Cycling Association (FRCA) is pleased to announce the formation of the Florida Clean Ride Fund, a fund designed to facilitate U.S. Anti-Doping Agency (USADA) testing at Florida Road events and ensure fair competition at the local amateur level. This is the first grassroots anti-doping and education program at an amateur level in any state in any sport.

All racers holding a USA Cycling license in the Florida are subject to testing.

The Florida Clean Ride Fund has been established to eliminate this barrier. The fund allows riders, sponsors, teams, businesses, clubs and fans of true and fair competition to donate the financial resources needed for promoters to hire USADA officials. The Florida Clean Ride Fund will also take on the role of coordinator between the USADA, event promoters and FRCA to ensure that every step in the implementation of testing at FRCA events runs smoothly. The fund will establish several channels for donations, including an internet site, Facebook page, and old fashioned mailings, to facilitate contributions from those who wish to support clean and fair sport. Donating sponsors, teams, and riders will have the option to remain anonymous or be recognized publicly on the website and in other marketing as contributors and supporters of clean and fair sport.

One easy way for teams, clubs and shops to help is to donate $250 to be listed on the site as a “Clean Team,” “Clean Club” or “Member Shop” with hotlinks on the site to theirs to hopefully drive supporters to patronize those who are contributing to make a difference. Velobrew, Treasure Coast Racing, RS 3 Racing, FitLab, Florida Velo, Gearlink and Velo's N2N Junior Development Team have all joined as "Clean Teams". Topview has joined as well as individual donations have come in from people like Dan Larson, David Guttenplant and Pablo Santa Cruz.

The second main component of the Florida Clean Ride Fund will be the dissemination of educational links, articles and resources to educate Florida cyclists as to what PEDs are, how testing is conducted, what a rider's rights are and where a rider can go for more information.
These resources will be housed on the Florida Clean Ride Fund website. USADA will also be collaborating with FRCA on several webinars as well as setting up kiosks at several events to ensure proper information is available so all riders know their rights.

Funds will be administered through FRCA. The target goal for fund raising is $25,000 with a minimum of $17000 to administer testing and education in 2012. All FRCA sanctioned events are subject to testing. The fund is the only source for the anti-doping campaign. Testing will be administered and executed directly by USASDA. Education will be administered and executed by the FRCA and its promoters, teams, and advocates. .All funds will be transferred through the secure PayPal network. The FRCA will disclose all donation amounts as a line item within their finances for full transparency to all members of FRCA.
The FRCA feels that this fund and the resources it can provide are the first true steps to ensuring that all racers in Florida can be confident that their results will be earned with hard work, training and determination, and not marginalized by those who choose to use PEDs as a short cut to better performance.

For information on how to donate, please visit www.floridacleanridefund.com. You can make a difference.

For questions please contact
Ryan Saylor: 870ryan@gmail.com
Jared Zimlin: jzimlin@yahoo.com
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Old 02-09-12, 07:33 PM
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Really hope this goes through this year!
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Glad Velobrew contributed!
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Old 02-10-12, 05:52 AM
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I threw $50 out of my own pocket towards it too. I think it's pretty cool that the 'Duh is leading the way by being the first state to sign with USADA for testing, especially with lots of grumbling, rumor, and innuendo that has gone on over the years (plus the couple of suspensions and positives from the duh).

Full disclosure, one of my regular training partners is one of the guys responsible for this finally happening.
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Looks very cool, nice to see the community stepping up.

I have questions:
- I take this fund is to cover costs of having USADA show up and test more frequently than they otherwise would, yes? It seems implied but wasn't totally clear.
- If somebody wants to accuse a rider or have the rider tested, is there a mechanism for that? E.g, "That guy's a doper, I just know it, and I'm willing to pay $250 to see him get busted".
- If a shop / club pays $250 to be a "clean team" does that mean they won't be tested? (ok that's tongue in cheek, hopefully)

Please don't take this the wrong way - I am pro-testing and I do think there are more dopers at the amateur / lower cat levels than most people realize. I just want to understand exactly how this works.
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I dont know what it takes, as far as funding and/or manpower, but would it be unreasonable to automatically test the entire podium of lets say the 30+, 40+, 1/2/3? As well as some random testing?
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Originally Posted by Creakyknees View Post
Looks very cool, nice to see the community stepping up.

I have questions:
- I take this fund is to cover costs of having USADA show up and test more frequently than they otherwise would, yes? It seems implied but wasn't totally clear.
If by more frequently you mean "to show up and test," then the answer is yes. USADA does not currently actively test in our area unless they have reason to (see next answer). My understanding is USADA will show up to six races in the 'Duh this season, randomly chosen by them, and ask people to pee in a cup. USADA has the FRCA race calendar, and they will pick and choose the races they will attend.


- If somebody wants to accuse a rider or have the rider tested, is there a mechanism for that? E.g, "That guy's a doper, I just know it, and I'm willing to pay $250 to see him get busted".
USADA already has this mechanism in place. My understanding is at least one Florida rider is currently serving a suspension based on a tip provided to USADA.

http://www.usada.org/media/sanction-diamond

- If a shop / club pays $250 to be a "clean team" does that mean they won't be tested? (ok that's tongue in cheek, hopefully)
I don't think so, and I hope they don't give people passes for being on a "clean team" (full disclosure, I'm on a "clean team").

Please don't take this the wrong way - I am pro-testing and I do think there are more dopers at the amateur / lower cat levels than most people realize. I just want to understand exactly how this works.
The web-site linked in the first post has answers to many of these questions.

Since this is apparently the first grass roots effort in the nation to attempt to contract with USADA for random testing, I imagine there will probably be a few bumps, warts, and growing pains as it works out. However, for those of us who believe in fair and clean competition, you have to start somewhere.

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Florida Clean Ride Fund

The Florida Road Cycling Association (FRCA) is pleased to announce the formation of the Florida Clean Ride Fund, a fund designed to facilitate U.S. Anti-Doping Agency (USADA) testing at Florida Road events and ensure fair competition at the local amateur level. This is the first grassroots anti-doping and education program at an amateur level in any state in any sport.

All racers holding a USA Cycling license in the Florida are subject to testing.

The Florida Clean Ride Fund has been established to eliminate this barrier.
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Hey, I didn't write the press release, I just copied and pasted it . But yeah, that is pretty funny.
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Talked to the boys who got this going. My biggest fear is the weekend warrior who gets a suspension for some over the counter med. NyQuil for example. Too many drugs in our everyday lives to try and keep abreast of. Still it is a good thing to test riders and clean out the cheaters.
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And let's not forget, end the speculation, rumors, and innuendo about the guys who are clean but super strong.
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And let's not forget, end the speculation, rumors, and innuendo about the guys who are clean but super strong.
Like Lance?
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They should focus on masters racers.. most bang for the buck I'd think.
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They should focus on masters racers.. most bang for the buck I'd think.
I bet that they get a lot more Masters Viagra users without a TUE than real PED users.

And I bet that they end up sanctioning 10 times the occasional pot smokers than anybody else that is truly cheating.

I am all in favor of clean racing and I'm sure that they folks that are behind this have their hearts in the right place, but I have a feeling that this could turn out very badly. It could be like the "War on Drugs" that simply had the Feds remove/harass the small-time guys from the drug trade to the advantage of the big-timers.
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Originally Posted by YMCA View Post
Talked to the boys who got this going. My biggest fear is the weekend warrior who gets a suspension for some over the counter med. NyQuil for example. Too many drugs in our everyday lives to try and keep abreast of. Still it is a good thing to test riders and clean out the cheaters.
College sports have some testing. I hope the education part is emphasized enough though. I had strict liability and the lack of regulation of supplements drilled into my head so many times while playing ncaa sports I won't take anything that claims to improve performance. I'm only barely comfortable with things like multivitamins.
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