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Old 02-15-12, 05:11 PM
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Wheel for racing training and commuting

Hi

I had my bike stolen last year with a powertap - the wheel was great, 20 spokes with a Deep-V rim. Had no issues with true or anything as a wheel that I used for everything - about 300-500km a week.

I'm a clyde (~100kg - 220lbs) and looking to get another powertap - I'm missing it.

I'm looking now at a 24 spoke or 32 spoke hub with a deep-v. The 20 was good, but just interested in people's opinions around what I should go for for a jack of all trades wheel?

It's the wheel that will stay on my bike full time.

Thoughts?
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Old 02-15-12, 06:32 PM
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HED Belgium w/ Sapim CX-Rays
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Old 02-15-12, 07:24 PM
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Mavic Open Pro 32 hole PT Pro+

Competive cyclist had them for $660 last week. Don't forget the gatorskins.
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HED Belgium w/ Sapim CX-Rays

Michelin Krylion Carbons for tires.
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Old 02-15-12, 07:51 PM
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28h or 32h with Kinlin XR300 or Velocity deep-v.
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Old 02-15-12, 07:54 PM
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Since you're already in AUS, why not a Velocity A23 with 24f/32r sapim laser (or dt comp) on whatever hub (hubs don't matter a ton....105s are great, or whatever velocity uses).
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Spoke to my wheel builder today and he said deep-v was a good choice - would suggest 32 spoke but 24 with high gauge spokes would save some weight and be nearly as strong.

I like the looks of the HED rims though, and the kinlin reviews also look good for a bulletproof wheel.

Hmmm
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Not that the Open Pros are super light, but they seem like a more reasonable choice to me. Especially for commuting and such.

They won't stop you from winning races, I can promise you that.
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My only beef with Open Pros is that they are slightly more prone to going out of true than a heavy duty rim like the Velocity Deep-V. I'm only 150 lbs and usually needed to true my 32H OP's a several times a year.
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Originally Posted by mattm View Post
Not that the Open Pros are super light, but they seem like a more reasonable choice to me. Especially for commuting and such.

They won't stop you from winning races, I can promise you that.
Depends. When the rim starts cracking around the eyelets, it might go out of true and rub the brake pads, slowing you down.
Open Pro is the only rim I've consistently heard about cracking around the spoke hole, including mine.
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The Kinlin 300 is a great rim. I've got one on a PT and haven't had to touch it. It's a Psimet build though so that probably has a lot to do with it. I've raced it on the road and in cx with no issues.
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Old 02-16-12, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by ruindd View Post
Since you're already in AUS, why not a Velocity A23 with 24f/32r sapim laser (or dt comp) on whatever hub (hubs don't matter a ton....105s are great, or whatever velocity uses).
i'd stay away from that wheel, and i'm 69.5kg.

my vote goes to deep V's, dt 1.2, or kinlin
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Old 02-16-12, 10:18 AM
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I'd get the CC special and replace the Open Pro when it's done. You can't beat that deal right now.
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Open Pros are junk. They crack at the eyelet, there's often something loose in them that rattles, and they aren't very stiff so they make a weak wheel.
I went through four in two years on my PT wheel before I gave up and went to KinLins.
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All I know is I've won a few races in the 3's on Open Pros, beating folks on much fancier wheels. It ain't about the bike, and it ain't about the wheels either.

Yes I've heard the horror stories about the eyelets, but have not experienced that during brevets, training rides, commutes, or races on them.

(that said I just ordered some 404's!)
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I never had an eyelet issue on an OP either.
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these suggestions seem to be good options to fit your need.

my preference is:

velocity aerohead rim
white industries h2/h3 hub
sapim cx-ray spokes
brass spoke nipples

this build has been my primary wheelset for 3 yrs. now and it's rock solid, durable, reasonable weight, comfortable, and low maintenance. i think i'm a good deal smaller than you are, but i regularly ride my road bike on dirt roads, historically designated farm roads (read unmaintained), chipseal, and other crappy surfaces. they are really nice wheels that i've raced, commuted on, and trained on.

prior to these i went through a set of mavic open pros that i cant recall what happened to and DT swiss R1.1s that developed cracks around some of the spoke eyelets. the velocity aerohead build is by far my favorite of those.

my other training wheelset is the fulcrum racing 7. they're heavy as lead balloons but a solid wheelset, and very stiff.
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I've got a 28-hole PT hub laced to a Kinlin 27mm rim. I've been running that nearly four years now with now problems. It's been my main wheel for everything. I'm going to have to replace the rims soon - the brake track is showing its wear.
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how did you manage to get to cat 2 on box sections?
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Some of us do quite well with them.
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you must be one of 'em prodigies who blasted by the cat 4's & 3's and upgraded to cat 2 in one season

oh wait, you are
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Originally Posted by echappist View Post
i'd stay away from that wheel, and i'm 69.5kg.

my vote goes to deep V's, dt 1.2, or kinlin
Why would you stay away from it?
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Does Mavic still make the CXP30?
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That has to be the first time anyone has had the misguided idea to call me a prodigy.
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That has to be the first time anyone has had the misguided idea to call me a prodigy.
you expected any better from a grad student
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Why would you stay away from it?
420g rim. box section. not very strong

lasers/revs are not the stiffest spokes out there. fine for a 140lb rider, but not for a 200+lb rider.
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