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Old 12-27-04, 05:34 PM
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Is that the color? Turquoise?

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how come there is no berry floor logo, i heard they just signed for 2 more years, and whats the deal with that yellow stripe, yuck
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Originally Posted by pk273340
how come there is no berry floor logo, i heard they just signed for 2 more years, and whats the deal with that yellow stripe, yuck
I'm thinking "Livestrong" for the yellow stripe ... wonder where the pressure came for that!
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Old 12-27-04, 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by koffee brown
Is that the color? Turquoise?

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It's not that bad, here's a pic.

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Old 12-27-04, 06:36 PM
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I'm not sure I get the whole Disco Channel angle. Can you even get that channel in Europe?

... and Bissel is a new sponsor isn't it?

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Originally Posted by geneman
Can you even get that channel in Europe?
according to an article on the paceline.com (http://www.thepaceline.com/members/s...m.aspx?cid=692) discovery channel is view in 160 countries and territories and in 35 different languages. so i would say yes

seriously though were is the berry floor logo?
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Old 12-27-04, 06:52 PM
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Wow that looks like crap. I have to say it, that color is really ugly.
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I don't think the color is bad.
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The silver looks very metalic. Makes the blue (if that's the color) look like cloth patches on a robot.....or the Tin Woodman of Oz (apologies to you Australlians)

Wonder what the helmet will look like?
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It just isnt like the good old navy blue.
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Old 12-27-04, 08:18 PM
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berry floor signed for two more years but will no longer be apart of the team name so maybe they dont get jersey space
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Old 12-27-04, 08:30 PM
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Why would some one like berry floor sponsor a team like that. I mean if you think trek sponsers so people ride treks. THat question is very broad but i am wondering.
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I think their 2004 USPS jerseys were much better looking.
But maybe it's just the design photo - maybe it looks a lot better in reality.
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Originally Posted by hi565
Why would some one like berry floor sponsor a team like that. I mean if you think trek sponsers so people ride treks. THat question is very broad but i am wondering.
Why does a flooring company in Italy (Quick Step) sponsor a team? Why does a plaster and cement company (Fassa Bortolo) sponsor a team?
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That is exactley my question, I know all those teams do it, I DONT think its stupid i am wondering WHY.
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I actually like the color too... more jerseys for people to buy...
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Originally Posted by Laggard
Why does a flooring company in Italy (Quick Step) sponsor a team? Why does a plaster and cement company (Fassa Bortolo) sponsor a team?
If it is like a near favorite team, I know who it's sponsors are...Fassa Bortolo...Top notch team....
Not cement firm....Italian coffee makers , right...Have you never seen those Italian podium girls with Patacchi...They are holding coffee makers....Like those Fassa jerseys....
I suspect companies might sponsor those sports of which the top management has some liking for..Or else some marketing scheme.
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Originally Posted by hi565
Wow that looks like crap. I have to say it, that color is really ugly.
But it will show up great on helicopter shots in races. And that matters. You will be able to pick them out of a crowd of 200 riders, no sweat.

The teal color is hot right now...
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The design is what could be improved..Silver portion looks like some kind of breast plate worn by Roman warriors...As to the color..I think it is ok..
Blue and maize..Go Michigan.
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Originally Posted by cyclezealot
I suspect companies might sponsor those sports of which the top management has some liking for..Or else some marketing scheme.
Or where their customers and potential customers might be found. These guys don't just wake up in the morning and decide to fork over a few mill to get their names on a jersey...they do extensive research to determine the payoff and also can calculate the "exposure time" they get on TV versus, say taking out a TV ad.
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Advertising is crucial, yes...But, often companies give away some charitable funds, just for pr...But, that is advertising of sorts too...
Supporting a cycling team could be good pr, yet alone advertising.
and to some companies a couple mil is nothing...
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Originally Posted by cyclezealot
Advertising is crucial, yes...But, often companies give away some charitable funds, just for pr...But, that is advertising of sorts too...
Supporting a cycling team could be good pr, yet alone advertising.
and to some companies a couple mil is nothing...
There are very specific rules on what constitutes "charitable funds". I own a company. I also used to work for a race team in the Indy Racing League. I raced on two fully sponsored bike teams. I also help a couple of bike teams market for sponsorship. Sponsorship is not charity. The IRS frowns on such things.
You are correct that a "couple mill is nothing" but in this day of increased accountability to Boards of Directors, the days of flinging around cash for fun are over. Which is why it is difficult, to use a racing example, for a team like Rousch Racing in NASCAR, which has won two consecutive national championships to find a sponsor for the old Jeff Burton team.
Large expenses like these have to be justified by ROI...
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Originally Posted by roadwarrior
There are very specific rules on what constitutes "charitable funds". I own a company. I also used to work for a race team in the Indy Racing League. I raced on two fully sponsored bike teams. I also help a couple of bike teams market for sponsorship. Sponsorship is not charity. The IRS frowns on such things.
You are correct that a "couple mill is nothing" but in this day of increased accountability to Boards of Directors, the days of flinging around cash for fun are over. Which is why it is difficult, to use a racing example, for a team like Rousch Racing in NASCAR, which has won two consecutive national championships to find a sponsor for the old Jeff Burton team.
Large expenses like these have to be justified by ROI...
roadwarrior....racing guy too huh?
Just for you.
I've run this series for 12 years now!
And we have a driver from Indy....Tony Perkins of WISH TV.
Based up in Milwaukee.

http://groups.msn.com/HOChampCar/wel...ochampcar.msnw

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How much would it cost for mention on a sleeve of Discovery cycling, I wonder?

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