Go Back  Bike Forums > The Racer's Forum > "The 33"-Road Bike Racing
Reload this Page >

Some quick wheel advice

Notices
"The 33"-Road Bike Racing We set this forum up for our members to discuss their experiences in either pro or amateur racing, whether they are the big races, or even the small backyard races. Don't forget to update all the members with your own race results.

Some quick wheel advice

Old 08-30-12, 07:48 PM
  #1  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
johnybutts's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 3,317

Bikes: Type of horse.

Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Some quick wheel advice

So I'm trying to shore up my gear for the 2013 season. I've got the opportunity to get some 2010 808s clincher aluminum breaking surface for $1000.

Bottom line is that I haven't done the research yet, but the window to get these is small. Would I be OK using these as an all-round race wheel? The other option I have would be to make a trade after I get these 808 front for a 404 front.

Anyone have any opinions on 808s as an all round race wheel?
johnybutts is offline  
Old 08-30-12, 08:58 PM
  #2  
Resident Alien
 
Racer Ex's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Location, location.
Posts: 13,089
Likes: 0
Liked 10 Times in 6 Posts
I'd go 404 front and 808 back. I like tubulars but they come with a hassle factor. The aluminum rim Zipps are their most reliable product to date. I'll tell you I couldn't ride an 808 in some of the TX winds on the TT bike; it would be a death wish in a mass start.

404 front can be ridden in 85-90% of the stuff you'll see.
Racer Ex is offline  
Old 08-30-12, 11:29 PM
  #3  
VeloSIRraptor
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Deschutes
Posts: 4,585
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Originally Posted by Racer Ex
I'd go 404 front and 808 back. I like tubulars but they come with a hassle factor. The aluminum rim Zipps are their most reliable product to date. I'll tell you I couldn't ride an 808 in some of the TX winds on the TT bike; it would be a death wish in a mass start.

404 front can be ridden in 85-90% of the stuff you'll see.
+1
I have a front 808, and I'd ride it in the conditions we see here - but not some of the conditions I've seen in NM/KS/FL/etc.
Windy conditions can be messy with the older non-super-wide wheels.
1.Get the 808s, trade for a 303/404 front.
2.Run latex inner-tubes & low rolling resistance tyres (if you are jealous of the tubular crowd).
3.Be happy.
Hida Yanra is offline  
Old 08-31-12, 06:59 AM
  #4  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
johnybutts's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 3,317

Bikes: Type of horse.

Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Thanks guys. One last question, in y'alls opinion would it be reasonably easy to make a 404/808 front trade?
johnybutts is offline  
Old 08-31-12, 07:22 AM
  #5  
soon to be gsteinc...
 
rkwaki's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Nayr497's BFF
Posts: 8,564
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Go to slowtwitch and do it. Those fuggers will trade their wives if it will make them look cool.
You should see the deals I've made over there.
rkwaki is offline  
Old 08-31-12, 07:24 AM
  #6  
soon to be gsteinc...
 
rkwaki's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Nayr497's BFF
Posts: 8,564
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Oh and some feedback on the 808s.
I have raced crits on a 808/1080 tubular combo and they are great once they are rolling but they tend to spin up slowly.
I love my 404s and just got a set of Mavic Carbone Ultimates which aren't as deep but very quick.

I have a teammate that races on a 404/808 combo and likes it though finds the 808 a little sluggish until at speed.

If it were me I'd get the 808s, ride them then decide from there.
rkwaki is offline  
Old 08-31-12, 09:53 AM
  #7  
**** that
 
mattm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: CALI
Posts: 15,402
Liked 104 Times in 30 Posts
Originally Posted by johnybutts
So I'm trying to shore up my gear for the 2013 season. I've got the opportunity to get some 2010 808s clincher aluminum breaking surface for $1000.

Bottom line is that I haven't done the research yet, but the window to get these is small. Would I be OK using these as an all-round race wheel? The other option I have would be to make a trade after I get these 808 front for a 404 front.

Anyone have any opinions on 808s as an all round race wheel?
Was your 2012 gear holding you back?
__________________
cat 1.

my race videos
mattm is offline  
Old 08-31-12, 10:06 AM
  #8  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
johnybutts's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 3,317

Bikes: Type of horse.

Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Didn't race in 2012.

I had EC90 Aeros but I hated them - the maintenance was ridiculous and I wasnt using them so I sold those. Also my power is a power meter - so I always had to choose wheels or data.

This year I want to move to crank-based (TT and road bikes are both BB30), and get a set of race wheels. Also, cleaning closet, selling CX bike - never use, can sell ptap if i get a quarq, I've got another road bike I can finish up and sell. Buying some MTB race wheels as well, current stock wheels are beat up pretty bad. The net expense for everything will be <$500.

That's my justification/logic.
johnybutts is offline  
Old 08-31-12, 10:11 AM
  #9  
soon to be gsteinc...
 
rkwaki's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Nayr497's BFF
Posts: 8,564
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by johnybutts
Didn't race in 2012.

I had EC90 Aeros but I hated them - the maintenance was ridiculous and I wasnt using them so I sold those. Also my power is a power meter - so I always had to choose wheels or data.

This year I want to move to crank-based (TT and road bikes are both BB30), and get a set of race wheels. Also, cleaning closet, selling CX bike - never use, can sell ptap if i get a quarq, I've got another road bike I can finish up and sell. Buying some MTB race wheels as well, current stock wheels are beat up pretty bad. The net expense for everything will be <$500.

That's my justification/logic.
You're like me, I wheel and deal for everything, trade, beg, borrow, etc. Racing gets too expensive when you are buying everything new/high end.
rkwaki is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
gsteinb
"The 33"-Road Bike Racing
265
07-23-16 01:08 PM
waynesulak
Tandem Cycling
0
07-30-13 11:49 AM
medic001918
General Cycling Discussion
1
01-19-12 03:54 AM
Copperhed51
"The 33"-Road Bike Racing
59
05-13-11 12:01 PM
grwoolf
Road Cycling
18
04-01-11 04:07 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Your Privacy Choices -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.