echappist

https://www.usedzipp.com/

and find ebay sold prices, take the final price + shipping and offer seller on ST something like less half of the fees. So if a comparable wheel went for $1000 on ebay, at 13% fee, offer something like $925 shipped

DerHoggz

No. Especially those levers, not that there's anything wrong with that.

shovelhd

usedzipp prices are on the high side.

HMF

Been out of pocket for a while due to work, and I come back to the racer forum and things are... weird. Is this the mid-summer lull?

rkwaki

tell me what you are looking for. I am a ***** over there.

rkwaki

No we all got out of competition randoms and are waiting for results...

island rider

Mostly I was wondering if paypal was a good way to pay to avoid getting ripped off, but since this has evolved into a means of finding a good deal...

I am looking for aero wheels to race in the hills and generally all-around. CDR was kind enough to give me the breakdown of his wheel thoughts by separate e-mail, but I was seeing prices over there on "new" and "next to new" 303 tubulars that made me think I could take a flyer on a set that I could use pretty much all around for the rest of the season. I also figured Enve 3.4s can come in around the same weight with better aero, but there seems to be none on the market now. (I also saw some 202s which would work for a dedicated in the hills set, but I think those might be wasted on me in the long run. I'm thinking that the sharp corners are more fun than the mountain peaks.)

If you've really got mad skills, I'll pm you a link and the e-mail I just got from a seller and you can tell me if it sounds like horse ****. I'd appreciate the help.

island rider

Good formula. Thanks.

gsteinb

I was just told the opposite. That with the advent of firecrest and 11 speed one can find used non-firecrest zipps at affordable prices. I saw a set of new 404s go last night for 760.

I'm in the market to replace my busted rear...either with an 808 or another 404.

Fat Boy

got me...

island rider

Typo? Or unused non-firecrest ones?

gsteinb

garmin edition. off a just sold bike. claimed went around the block and the buyer decided he just didn't want tubulars so swapped out the wheels.

gsteinb

https://www.ebay.com/itm/181153132018...84.m1435.l2648

island rider

Wow. This makes the deal I am considering look like a rip off. Of course, it may be a rip-off anyway. Damn inter webs.

gsteinb

I pulled out at $650

thechemist

Yes, the usedzipp site prices are a bit high. I have been hunting in the zipp market for quite awhile and you can certainly find 10speed firecrest for a little under 1k.

gsteinb

I think I just showed the opposite, but whatever.

island rider

I think he meant the prices on that site usedzipp.com, not in the market, I think he agreed with your market comment.

gsteinb

gotcha

small screen

thechemist

Yes, I am getting coffee now too which will also help well just about everything

carpediemracing 

I went with my gut feeling. I got my Stinger 7 and Stinger 9 off ST. I probably overpaid for the S9 but it's all relative - saving $100 isn't necessarily critical and having a good feeling about the transaction is worth paying a margin. Also the wheels came with good tires.

Seems that Stingers get shorted overall. I'm a big fan of them and they're relatively cheap.

shovelhd

That's what I meant, the site prices. Narrow Zipp prices have been dropping for a while and the site hasn't kept up.

I bought my set of used pre-dimpled 404 tubulars for $550 with a new pair of Sprinters and a DA7900 cassette.

shovelhd

I totally agree. I'd pay more to purchase from a good seller. I'd have gone HED but I dd not want to mix narrow and wide. Whenever I go wide and 11 speed, HED is at the top of my list.

island rider

What's your gut tell you about this?

"The wheels are still available. They are built with cosmetic blem rims and used as sponsorship rims for pro riders, hence the white decals with beyond black hubs. I can't tell any difference visually from OEM Zipps I've had in the past. I bought them from a pro roadie in Indianapolis in December to use for cyclocross but am making the switch to discs for the upcoming season. If you'd like to purchase them, let me know and we can arrange Paypal."

The name in the e-mail address matches a guy with a racing history (and apparently some cross chops if his last finish is any indication). The ad is for NIB 303s and the pics look in line with his description. I'm less concerned about $100 here and there than I am about getting something fake, or not what I expected.

At the end of the day I may just pass. Going with something like Hed makes a bit more sense. Mix and match wheels all up the line rather than Zipp 303s, Enve 6.7s and whatever else I end up with. Plus the Heds are cheaper in the first place, and probably bigger reduced in the secondary market.

jsutkeepspining

Just sent fatty mcfatbutt some photos. he said i looked skinny.