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Old 02-07-05, 08:55 AM
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I don't know if it's still true, but at one time the British Paratroop Regiment refused to accept candidates if they had visible tattoos once their BDUs were on - i.e. hands, face, etc. Something about presenting a bad image ... killing someone a million ways from sunday is only permissible if you don't have tats!

Clinger was contracted before he got the face tattoo. The Sponsors bought a product that was damaged goods on delivery. I'd refuse to accept it as well.
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I actually think that is still true today. At least it is in the US Military. You arent allowed to have a Tattoo that is visible when in your BDU. And it is all about the image (and getting rid of the 'individual'. Everything has to be uniform. Same with wearing civilian clothing under your BDU (for cold weather etc) - you can wear it as long as you cant see it.
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I wanna see it!
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Here you go.


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Huh?
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Huh?
Maybe it is a tat of a red X.
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This guy should be in the Special Olympics. I mean, seriously.
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The guy has never been to NZ, got it done on Argentina, yet claims he felt some affinity with polynesian culture.

A moko (Maori name for facial tattoo using Maori designs) has huge spiritual significance with Maori people. I don't think you would find many Maori in NZ that would undertake to get one without a lot more forethought than thinking it makes you look like a warrior.

I think he needs to change his prescriptions
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Here's a picture: https://www.velonews.com/news/fea/7546.0.html
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Thanks for the link. Crazy boy.
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Clinger is a poster boy for modern cultural vacuity.
 
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Clinger is a poster boy for modern cultural vacuity.
And it's catching on:

https://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/20...5/freedman.jpg
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I would have done that to if I was sponsored by FORD.
 
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Is that a real tat?

Kind of looks like those henna tattoos that fade away after a little while.
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Originally Posted by Brillig
Is that a real tat?
I think Freedman's tattoo is a joke. Ironically enough, Basis is a line of facial cleansers. It's a good example of a tat that probably wouldn't jive with the company's brand strategy.

The Team Basis Website says that Nicole had the work done out of her love and respect for saltwater fish, and notes that "racing a criterium is a lot like swimming around a saltwater reef waiting for a great white shark to attack...and then at the last second swimming out of the way quickly so one of your teammates can be swallowed up instead." She also lists her weight as 115lbs (with haircut). I wonder what she weighs with all that ink?

Nicole's personal site reinforces the notion that she's a bit of a kook. In a good way. Tat or no tat, I'll follow this gal through the season. Cause she cracks me right up.
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Hmm...the part on his head almost looks like a helmet.

That's worse than the Mike Tyson tat. I wouldn't want to get too close to that guy. Maybe that's his plan.
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Originally Posted by girl27
I think Freedman's tattoo is a joke. Ironically enough, Basis is a line of facial cleansers. It's a good example of a tat that probably wouldn't jive with the company's brand strategy.

The Team Basis Website says that Nicole had the work done out of her love and respect for saltwater fish, and notes that "racing a criterium is a lot like swimming around a saltwater reef waiting for a great white shark to attack...and then at the last second swimming out of the way quickly so one of your teammates can be swallowed up instead." She also lists her weight as 115lbs (with haircut). I wonder what she weighs with all that ink?

Nicole's personal site reinforces the notion that she's a bit of a kook. In a good way. Tat or no tat, I'll follow this gal through the season. Cause she cracks me right up.
Looks like a lousy Photoshop jobber to me.
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Originally Posted by girl27
I think Freedman's tattoo is a joke. Ironically enough, Basis is a line of facial cleansers. It's a good example of a tat that probably wouldn't jive with the company's brand strategy....
Nicole's personal site reinforces the notion that she's a bit of a kook. In a good way. Tat or no tat, I'll follow this gal through the season. Cause she cracks me right up.
Nicole definitely has a sense of humor. She used to write some amusing columns for Velo News. Thanks for the link to her web site.
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Originally Posted by girl27
I think Freedman's tattoo is a joke. Ironically enough, Basis is a line of facial cleansers. It's a good example of a tat that probably wouldn't jive with the company's brand strategy.

The Team Basis Website says that Nicole had the work done out of her love and respect for saltwater fish, and notes that "racing a criterium is a lot like swimming around a saltwater reef waiting for a great white shark to attack...and then at the last second swimming out of the way quickly so one of your teammates can be swallowed up instead." She also lists her weight as 115lbs (with haircut). I wonder what she weighs with all that ink?

Nicole's personal site reinforces the notion that she's a bit of a kook. In a good way. Tat or no tat, I'll follow this gal through the season. Cause she cracks me right up.
If you read the bios for all of the Team Basis riders, it becomes clear the entire page is a joke. Supposedly one of the riders is a former member of ABBA, even though she left the band before she was born. Also, one of the riders is doing graduate work in geology and she "studies dirt, rocks and other such exciting things."
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Originally Posted by skydive69
I can certainly understand that considering how rare tattoos are - especially on sports figures. I'd tell the sponsor to go eff themselves.
Would it make a difference to you to know that what Clinger has done is, with respect to Maori culture, deeply offensive and completely against protocol?

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Originally Posted by Avalanche325
It is called a Moko. I lived in New Zealand for three years. I think I saw 1 that was not on TV. Of course he has a right to have one.
Tena koutou katoa

I am Maori. I was born in New Zealand / Aotearoa and I can state categorically, Clinger has NO right at all, with respect to the Maori culture, which he apparently admires, to have such a tattoo. Moko (Maori facial tattoos) amount to a claim to having a certain specific ancestry. What Clinger has done by getting a copy from a magazine done by an ARGENTINIAN tattooist is effectively identity and ancestral identity theft.

If he admires Maori culture he should remove it.

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Originally Posted by jbhowat
That said, its his right to have it, and it is the sponsor's right to have it removed or remove him from the team but IMHO *ONLY* if he got it after he signed. I don't know the whole story.
No. You don't know the whole story at all...it is NOT his right to have such a tattoo anymore than its your right to use my credit card details to purchase things...even more so because the Moko is a deeply Maori spiritual thing to have done.

Clinger hasn't even been to New Zealand/Aotearoa...

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Originally Posted by koffee brown
Well, if he's Maori, then that's one thing.

If he did it just because, then he's just an idiot who didn't think before he acted. But I'm sure the pain of having it scraped off his face will help him understand what he should and shouldn't do to his own body when it's basically owned by the company that pays your bills.

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I couldn't agree more Koffee. I am Maori.

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Originally Posted by NeoBinary
I suppose you've based this on the tons of data you've collected?
Painting with some mighty broad strokes, don't ya think?
Yes. The data is called common sense. I've compiled 40 years of it.

Painting with broad strokes??? Well, that is what the word MOST is all about. In the activist world it is known as stereotyping. In the scientific world it is know as statistics. In the CORPORATE world, which is what we are talking about here in a PROFESSIONAL sport with CORPORATE SPONSORSHIP it is called demographics. And TONs and TONS of research using everything from surveys, test groups, marketing researchers and psychiatrists are done to decide the proper image for corporate branding.

If the sponsor was Red Bull, or something like that, they might think it is a good thing. But, the people writing his paycheck don't.
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