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Old 03-07-13, 06:32 PM
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New racer need advice

Im coming over from triathlon to race bikes this season. Im out in broomfield colorado so i figure the competition is going to be pretty tough in cat 5. I plan on doing mostly crit racing with a few tour type races mixed in. If anyone has any tips or things I should be doing. Im currently working on building a better base. Thanks
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Check out this thread: https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...s-a-tip-or-two
A lot of good advice there.
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Im coming over from triathlon to race bikes this season.
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Triathlon is mostly steady state, while criteriums have a lot of surges: 20 mph, 25 mph, 20 mph, 30 mph, 22 mph. Work on short intense intervals once in a while. See the workout recipe book sticky also.
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You'll probably need to work on bike handling too.
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Originally Posted by briandelmo View Post
Im coming over from triathlon to race bikes this season. Im out in broomfield colorado so i figure the competition is going to be pretty tough in cat 5. I plan on doing mostly crit racing with a few tour type races mixed in. If anyone has any tips or things I should be doing. Im currently working on building a better base. Thanks
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Im decent bike handling. I started out with group rides before i switched to triathlon, now im back. Most of the bigger group rides havent started out here yet due to these random blizzards we keep getting on saturdays
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Definitely work on short intervals.

Stereotypical strong triathlete can maintain a pretty high pace, but doesn't respond well to surges.

And surges is all crits are about.

So things like 30 seconds on 30 seconds off repeat 10 times by 2 sets, help
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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh View Post
Definitely work on short intervals.

Stereotypical strong triathlete can maintain a pretty high pace, but doesn't respond well to surges.

And surges is all crits are about.

So things like 30 seconds on 30 seconds off repeat 10 times by 2 sets, help
This was me. I am another former triathlete. I could motor along all day, but if I had to dig deeply anaerobic I couldn't recover and would eventually get dropped.
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Old 03-08-13, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh View Post
Definitely work on short intervals.

Stereotypical strong triathlete can maintain a pretty high pace, but doesn't respond well to surges.

And surges is all crits are about.

So things like 30 seconds on 30 seconds off repeat 10 times by 2 sets, help
Thanks for the tip. Thats something I need to work on definitely and climbing. Should I combine the 2 with short climbing intervals?
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Group rides. A lot of them. Get used to being "in the wheels". Understand how close you need to be for drafting to be really effective. How to be near other riders and ainticipate the ebb and flow and not be panic-locking your brakes all the time. How to go around a turn at the speed of the group with riders on both sides of you.
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Originally Posted by caloso View Post
This was me. I am another former triathlete. I could motor along all day, but if I had to dig deeply anaerobic I couldn't recover and would eventually get dropped.
This IS me, except for the former triathlete part. Starting racing at an advanced age was an education. I knew I could ride with these guys all day, I'd been doing it for years. But despite knowing in theory about the surge/recover stuff, the intensity of it literally takes your breath away. Still more intervals required for me to be competitive ... and they suck, as you Americans put it.
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Originally Posted by briandelmo View Post
Im decent bike handling. I started out with group rides before i switched to triathlon, now im back. Most of the bigger group rides havent started out here yet due to these random blizzards we keep getting on saturdays
If there are group rides which are treated more like a race, then do some of those. Many group rides focus on maintaining cooperative pacelines, and a race peloton is vastly different. Rather than two nicely structured columns, you are in a pack with people moving up and back all around you. Protecting your front wheel in the peloton, and not taking anyone else's wheel out, is a vital skill, and it's different than in a paceline. Awareness of what's happening well in front of you is another.
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If you can make it to Longmont after work on Thursdays, there is grassroots crit series starting 4/18. The flyer isn't up on the BRAC site yet.

I did this last year as my first crits, and it was really useful. I'll be doing it again this year. There is competition, but the fields are smaller, the course is non-techincal (or was last year, they changed the venue), it's inexpensive. I don't know if it counts for upgrade points, but I would think i should count towards your 10 to get out of 5s (you need to verify, if you care). You do need an USAC/ACA license.

https://www.facebook.com/IdealBoulderCrit

Contact the promoter on that facebook page if you have questions, he is super supportive of local/intro level riding, it's a fun series.

If you don't have a group you already ride with, check out the Rocky Mountain Cycling Club (requires membership after the first 3 rides), there are some racers and some long distance folks in that club, and the rides often are competitive?fast, membership is inexpensive, and you don't have to get on a race team (which it's the wrong time of year for).
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Thanks valygrl. I work at the FAC so I will be in that area on thursdays. I will check out that club too because I do not have a current group ride yet.
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Originally Posted by briandelmo View Post
Im coming over from triathlon to race bikes this season. Im out in broomfield colorado so i figure the competition is going to be pretty tough in cat 5. I plan on doing mostly crit racing with a few tour type races mixed in. If anyone has any tips or things I should be doing. Im currently working on building a better base. Thanks

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