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Old 08-05-13, 09:28 AM
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Never raced, cant find what I am looking for

First off, I have never raced and really want to get into it.
Secondly, I far prefer relevant comments to links to other threads with 12 pages and the wrong info. Please dont respond if you are miffed that I am "starting a new thread on a tired old topic".

Anyway, I was wondering if I am fit enough. Sure, everyone wonders that, but on the other hand they usually dont get any straight answers. My latest ride was med-hard, 36 miles 4000 ft gain, 16+ mph avg. I can prob hold 22+ for over an hour on flat, but I dont really have long flat training options.

Mostly I was wondering about how everyone decides who pulls... it seems like everyone would be teying desperately to NOT pull, unless they are attacking for a break. What is the motivation to keep the pace up before the end of a race?

Thanks in advance for any helpful replys! Oh and pls no "its more about bike handling than speed". I can handle a bike, draft, rub shoulders, sprint etc. I assume I will realize I need to be better after racing, but that isnt what I am asking about. I am also not asking about joining a club, group rides etc.

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Old 08-05-13, 09:37 AM
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Impossible to answer if your fit enough. That's why people here usually suggest the progression outlined by Botto in the sticky thread.

The fact that you cna hold 22mph on the flats, is somewhat helpful information, but you'll quickly find out, racing (particularly races without sustained long climbs) is more about being able to respond to surges, put out a lot of power for a short time, recover quickly and repeat over and over.

Thus you may want to work on short intervals with short rest ( like 30 seconds on, 30 seconds off) particularly given that ti sounds like you've gotten good base fitness.


Who pulls is a complicated question. In a Cat 5 race, which will be your first, there are enough people who think they are "winning" because they're on the front that they'll keep the pace up.

As you get in races with teams working together, and racers with some idea of strategy, there are multiple reasons that someone might pull. One, to catch a break, Two, to make the race hard for riders on other teams, while protecting your designated rider, Three, to thin the herd, and eliminate potential sprinters, Four, to weaken the sprinters, Five, to discourage attacks, Six, to maintain position in the pack, Seven, to position your sprinter, and keep him from getting swarmed under, etc.


Just depends on the dynamics of the race. But one key to it is that there will be team members who's job it is to push the pace, even though it might hurt their individual chances.
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While fitness may seem to be a deciding factor, I regularly have seen over-weight, beer belly, donut eating men win many races. Like others have said, racing is mostly about surging and being able to respond and recover, over and over and over. Best way to also find out if you are "race ready" is to pin on a number and get out there.
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Originally Posted by aaronmcd View Post
First off, I have never raced and really want to get into it.
Secondly, I far prefer relevant comments to links to other threads with 12 pages and the wrong info. Please dont respond if you are miffed that I am "starting a new thread on a tired old topic".

Anyway, I was wondering if I am fit enough. Sure, everyone wonders that, but on the other hand they usually dont get any straight answers. My latest ride was med-hard, 36 miles 4000 ft gain, 16+ mph avg. I can prob hold 22+ for over an hour on flat, but I dont really have long flat training options.

Mostly I was wondering about how everyone decides who pulls... it seems like everyone would be teying desperately to NOT pull, unless they are attacking for a break. What is the motivation to keep the pace up before the end of a race?

Thanks in advance for any helpful replys! Oh and pls no "its more about bike handling than speed". I can handle a bike, draft, rub shoulders, sprint etc. I assume I will realize I need to be better after racing, but that isnt what I am asking about. I am also not asking about joining a club, group rides etc.

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being that those things are all relative to the level of guys you're around I'm actually willing to bet you can't, certainly not from my perspective. If you ponder that long and deeply enough over the course of your racing career you might actually find it to be helpful advice.
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Originally Posted by aaronmcd View Post
Anyway, I was wondering if I am fit enough. Sure, everyone wonders that, but on the other hand they usually dont get any straight answers
Here's the tried & method:

1) Get a license: https://www.usacycling.org/news/user/story.php?id=579

B) Line-up and actually race, straight away you will have your answer.

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Originally Posted by aaronmcd View Post
First off, I have never raced and really want to get into it.
Secondly, I far prefer relevant comments to links to other threads with 12 pages and the wrong info. Please dont respond if you are miffed that I am "starting a new thread on a tired old topic".
Deal. As long as you don't get miffed by the fact that almost all of this IS covered in the sticky. All of it relevant information as we have little tolerance for wrong/bad info here in the 33. The info linked there is really good stuff from people that have 10, 20, 30+ years of racing experience. If you don't have the patience to read through it, you aren't long for the racing world.

Anyway, I was wondering if I am fit enough. Sure, everyone wonders that, but on the other hand they usually dont get any straight answers. My latest ride was med-hard, 36 miles 4000 ft gain, 16+ mph avg. I can prob hold 22+ for over an hour on flat, but I dont really have long flat training options.
Sounds like you're plenty fit enough. Go sign up and give it a go. Lots of people start racing with less experience than you seem to have.

Mostly I was wondering about how everyone decides who pulls... it seems like everyone would be teying desperately to NOT pull, unless they are attacking for a break. What is the motivation to keep the pace up before the end of a race?
There's always someone at the front and always someone at the back. The rest figures itself out. Try not to be with the latter.

Thanks in advance for any helpful replys! Oh and pls no "its more about bike handling than speed". I can handle a bike, draft, rub shoulders, sprint etc. I assume I will realize I need to be better after racing, but that isnt what I am asking about. I am also not asking about joining a club, group rides etc.

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The best way to find out is to do it! Seriously, nothing we are going to tell you is going to be better than pinning a number for the first time and seeing how you do. If you get dropped (sounds like you probably wont), train on intervals to help recover from surges, and go back. You'll get better and, hopefully, have a good time.

I should add, to Gary's point about handling: handling skills on fast group rides, while helpful, does not equal handling skills in races. There are some parallels, but race handling is on a whole other planet. Without racing experience I can guarantee you do not have these skills, yet. I say this from experience as, before I started racing, I thought very much the way you do: "I've been on fast group rides, I've ridden close to people, I can roll a mean paceline, I know how to do this!" I was very wrong.
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I should add, to Gary's point about handling: handling skills on fast group rides, while helpful, does not equal handling skills in races. There are some parallels, but race handling is on a whole other planet. Without racing experience I can guarantee you do not have these skills, yet. I say this from experience as, before I started racing, I thought very much the way you do: "I've been on fast group rides, I've ridden close to people, I can roll a mean paceline, I know how to do this!" I was very wrong.
Simple example. Yesterday's crit with 3 laps to go, I'm on the very outside of the course as we come through the start finish line. I'm on a line to miss the awning marking the line by about an inch. Guy beside me doesn't realize I'm there, and moves over into me, when a guy is crowding him from the other side, and gives me a pretty solid elbow to the hip. The three of us hold our lines, stay up right and roll on. Really not a big deal. Any one of the three of us over react and its not a pretty picture.
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You have a lot of demands.

Good luck with that.

Oh, read the sticky, search, just go do it, etc.
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Originally Posted by aaronmcd View Post
First off, I have never raced and really want to get into it.
Secondly, I far prefer relevant comments to links to other threads with 12 pages and the wrong info. Please dont respond if you are miffed that I am "starting a new thread on a tired old topic".

Anyway, I was wondering if I am fit enough. Sure, everyone wonders that, but on the other hand they usually dont get any straight answers. My latest ride was med-hard, 36 miles 4000 ft gain, 16+ mph avg. I can prob hold 22+ for over an hour on flat, but I dont really have long flat training options.

Mostly I was wondering about how everyone decides who pulls... it seems like everyone would be teying desperately to NOT pull, unless they are attacking for a break. What is the motivation to keep the pace up before the end of a race?

Thanks in advance for any helpful replys! Oh and pls no "its more about bike handling than speed". I can handle a bike, draft, rub shoulders, sprint etc. I assume I will realize I need to be better after racing, but that isnt what I am asking about. I am also not asking about joining a club, group rides etc.

Aaron
You are definitely fit enough in some sense. You ride faster than me in training when I was a Cat 2. If your self-assessment is accurate then you should be absolutely fine as a Cat 2. If you aren't a Cat 2 in short time then you're not racing up to your current abilities.

For when someone pulls it's really a personal thing until you get up to a race where you get some actual teamwork. It's unusual to have that teamwork in Cat 4s, even in Cat 3s. I've pulled because I felt like it (wanted to make a hard effort for training, just felt like it, etc), because I was helping a teammate, or because I had to pull to survive in the race (usually when I'm in a group that gets gapped off the back).

The only thing lacking may be attitude. Bike racing is a complex sport with no easy answers. If you expect to have anonymous internet people hand you everything on a plate, pre-digested, it's asking a lot because it's virtually impossible. If you're not willing to make that very basic effort then bike racing may not the sport for you. It's a hard sport. It allows you to become mediocre very quickly but it is very hard to do well. Do some research. Find a local race. Enter it.

One tip for never-raced-before riders that seems to generate skepticism is the importance of peak speed. On a flat road you should be able to go at least 30 mph if you want to hang in a normal Cat 5 crit. If you can go 34 mph you should be able to hang in for most Cat 4 and many Cat 3 races. If you can go 38 mph then you'll be okay in a Cat 3 and probably in Cat 2 races. This is based on your 16 mph 2 hour ride and what that implies in terms of fitness.
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being that those things are all relative to the level of guys you're around I'm actually willing to bet you can't, certainly not from my perspective. If you ponder that long and deeply enough over the course of your racing career you might actually find it to be helpful advice.
I was expecting one of these replies. I don't mean to say I am good at these, or even that I know how I stack up - just meant to say I am not clueless as to the importance of these, and that I am more capable in these aspects than most non-racers - I'm sure most racers would kick my ass at some of the more aggressive stuff.
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Originally Posted by Bandera View Post
Here's the tried & method:

1) Get a license: https://www.usacycling.org/news/user/story.php?id=579

B) Line-up and actually race, straight away you will have your answer.

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Definitely going to try that method as well
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Deal. As long as you don't get miffed by the fact that almost all of this IS covered in the sticky. All of it relevant information as we have little tolerance for wrong/bad info here in the 33. The info linked there is really good stuff from people that have 10, 20, 30+ years of racing experience. If you don't have the patience to read through it, you aren't long for the racing world.



Sounds like you're plenty fit enough. Go sign up and give it a go. Lots of people start racing with less experience than you seem to have.



There's always someone at the front and always someone at the back. The rest figures itself out. Try not to be with the latter.



The best way to find out is to do it! Seriously, nothing we are going to tell you is going to be better than pinning a number for the first time and seeing how you do. If you get dropped (sounds like you probably wont), train on intervals to help recover from surges, and go back. You'll get better and, hopefully, have a good time.

I should add, to Gary's point about handling: handling skills on fast group rides, while helpful, does not equal handling skills in races. There are some parallels, but race handling is on a whole other planet. Without racing experience I can guarantee you do not have these skills, yet. I say this from experience as, before I started racing, I thought very much the way you do: "I've been on fast group rides, I've ridden close to people, I can roll a mean paceline, I know how to do this!" I was very wrong.
Oh, I have the patience to read the stuff - I've spent hours already. I actually registered here at bikeforums because most of the best google searches brought me here. One day I'll be too sore to ride, so I can spend the day reading the sticky (I may have read it through in the past though - no way to know with all the stuff I've been reading).

As for the handling skills - I'm sure they could be better, but likely only what I would get in a race. I'm not about to go on a friendly group ride and start and cutting people off and knocking into them to test my skills haha.
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sounds like you already have the answers to everything so why waste the time asking here.
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You have a lot of demands.

Good luck with that.

Oh, read the sticky, search, just go do it, etc.
The "demands" were an attempt to dissuade this kind of post. I've read this reply about a hundred times in dozens of threads.
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The "demands" were an attempt to dissuade this kind of post. I've read this reply about a hundred times in dozens of threads.
I'll post what I want. Unlike you I know what I don't know, and I know how internet forums work. Feel free to piss off.
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The "demands" were an attempt to dissuade this kind of post. I've read this reply about a hundred times in dozens of threads.
and your question has been asked hundreds of times in at least as many threads since i joined this board in 2007. you might think it's different, but it's not.
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If you aren't a Cat 2 in short time then you're not racing up to your current abilities.
This, absolutely. So now you know the answer to your question.
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Thanks for the response. I would be nice to know if I have the fitness to partially make up for no race experience. I can hit 30 on the flats with a large backpack and street clothes on my way home from work, but I don't know if I could hit 38 without a descent ever. Maybe for a half second haha. Prob not.
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sounds like you already have the answers to everything so why waste the time asking here.
... not sure what this means. Somehow I highly doubt someone who has never raced has "the answers".
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and your question has been asked hundreds of times in at least as many threads since i joined this board in 2007. you might think it's different, but it's not.
You joined in 2006. Don't short yourself.

And I joined in 2008, and have taken multiple hiati, but I'm pretty sure I've seen this question a thousand times. The numbers are different, the tone is different, some people think they can control the internet, but the answer is always the same. Go race your ****ing bike and find out.
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Originally Posted by aaronmcd View Post
The "demands" were an attempt to dissuade this kind of post. I've read this reply about a hundred times in dozens of threads.
There's a reason it's repeated so many times.
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There's a reason it's repeated so many times.
Still, the fact that it is repeated so often makes it much harder to find useful info. I couldn't find any info on when and why people pull. So I asked. I also sometimes ask people questions in person, even if the answer is somewhere out there on the internet. It's just easier and more reliable to ask experienced racers directly than find a vaguely similar question with 10 replies saying the info is somewhere else.

Also, personalized responses are more useful than generic info. It's why many athletes have coaches rather than searching the internet all day. In absence of coaching, discussion is almost always more helpful than pointing to a book/thread/google/whatever.
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Searching google and ending up somewhere on BikeForums != reading the stickies in the 33. The former is hit or miss (god forbid you land in the 41), the latter is information from athletes with lots and lots of experience.

Here's my personal response for you:

1) Register for a race.
2) Pin a number (right side up and on the correct side!).
3) Do your best not to get dropped.
4) If you're doing well with 3), try to win.

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See, this is why Jandro should not have closed my thread, but instead made it a sticky:

https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...s+you+can+race
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