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Old 02-23-15, 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Doge View Post
TT start times posted Sat night...
you can do a bit of math and with ~600 registered and first rider off at 8am the last rider will be somewhere around 1pm. i'd put a SWAG of 11:30-1 for the p12 field. i'm guessing 915, 930 for the 35+'ers. 8-830 for the 3/4s, but they're first so it's easy.

Originally Posted by doge
I'm over thinking tire choices for the RR. I have a heavy Paris-Roubaix 25 or standard 23 or light 25. The thing is there is a lot of paved road on that course - especially the end. I know everyone here is a competitor of ours - but what are you running in the RR?
think i'm going P-R 25s. i agree that 90% of the race is paved, but i suspect the gravel could be decisive.

i hear mixed stuff about the gravel and the road quality. in a field of 160 i'd be even more likely to go with something beefy because there's less control of what you'll hit. also, with your boy's recent history better to be in the race than on the side of the road. just my opinion.
OTOH...

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Wind direction should be pretty much N-NW, intensity is unknown. Hopefully, not 45mph guts. I think the tech guide says P12's get rolling full road enclosure, should make for some more space. Early TT's could be cold. Hadn't looked at the temperature forecast since it's been so warm lately.

Agreed on the rain, or hoping for a lack of rain on Friday.

Feedback on the gravel is that it is washboarded and there are some loose sections.

i suspect many will think the gravel will be decisive--and it might. however, it looks like the gravel leads to/overlaps with a bit of climbing. i think the prevailing wind may really neutralize the gravel and climb and that things will blow apart afterwards. of course, if someone/some group can get a gap at the end of the gravel/climb they could be absolutely gone when you add in the wind after that right-hander.

this is just my analysis based on a look at the course features + weather. i could be and have been very wrong.
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Old 02-23-15, 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by tetonrider View Post
i suspect many will think the gravel will be decisive--and it might. however, it looks like the gravel leads to/overlaps with a bit of climbing. i think the prevailing wind may really neutralize the gravel and climb and that things will blow apart afterwards. of course, if someone/some group can get a gap at the end of the gravel/climb they could be absolutely gone when you add in the wind after that right-hander.

this is just my analysis based on a look at the course features + weather. i could be and have been very wrong.
If I recall, the rollers (~10 miles) before the gravel are relatively sheltered from the wind. The course is pretty exposed from about 2 miles after Paskenta until this year's start location. The gravel is a bit climby and the punchy little hill after the gravel can hurt and help create a gap. All in all, it's a fun course.
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Old 02-23-15, 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by hack View Post
If I recall, the rollers (~10 miles) before the gravel are relatively sheltered from the wind. The course is pretty exposed from about 2 miles after Paskenta until this year's start location. The gravel is a bit climby and the punchy little hill after the gravel can hurt and help create a gap. All in all, it's a fun course.
good insight. thank you, hack!

hope you have an amazing race.
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Old 02-23-15, 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by tetonrider View Post
good insight. thank you, hack!

hope you have an amazing race.
Likewise. I'm sure you'll pick up plenty more from your recon given your experience. I was generally attentive to the surroundings last year. Well, at least until the pace picked up around the feed zone and I started to see double, so some of my recollection might not be 100%
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Originally Posted by hack View Post
Likewise. I'm sure you'll pick up plenty more from your recon given your experience. I was generally attentive to the surroundings last year. Well, at least until the pace picked up around the feed zone and I started to see double, so some of my recollection might not be 100%
don't think i'll be able to recon the RR. in the ideal world i'd like to, but i didn't realize the distances involved.

in particular i didn't realize thunder hill was as far as it is from chico, and after 12, 13h of driving on thursday i'm probably just going to head back to chico after racing friday. i've gotta go early to my buddy's 3/4 race and wait around before mine.

saturday's an early day with the travel (did i mention i hate mornings? ), so no recon then.

might go pre-ride the TT friday afternoon.

i'm going to give everything i've got in the race but honestly can't have much in the way of expectations. super early for me. can't quite treat it like i would for an A race. kind of pains me to say that.
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Old 02-24-15, 12:14 AM
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most importantly, @hack -- any good spots to eat that one might otherwise miss?

my buddy is excited for all chipotle all the time (we live in an area with pretty much no chains), but i'd rather have good local food. any tips are appreciated.
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Originally Posted by tetonrider View Post
most importantly, @hack -- any good spots to eat that one might otherwise miss?

my buddy is excited for all chipotle all the time (we live in an area with pretty much no chains), but i'd rather have good local food. any tips are appreciated.
Shoot ... my Chico knowledge is limited when it comes to specific foods. It's about 2 hours north of me and I only get up there a couple times a year. However, the brewery, believe it or not, is a pretty solid place for good eats. It's near the south side of town though (not a bad area, just more driving). Sadly, the downtown corridor is getting increasingly overrun with a growing homeless population, but it has some hipster type places due the college right in town. It's a progressive little town, so you'll get some unique non-chain options near the center of town. They still have the chain type places (e.g., Chipotle) in the strip mall areas surrounding the town though.

Outside of Chico (e.g., Circuit Race or Road Race), there is little for eating other than the typical McDonalds, Burger King, etc.
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The kids wanna drive down to Chico to see the crit on Sunday. Any tips for parking/spectating?

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Old 02-24-15, 11:27 AM
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As I've admitted this really is all about me - my kid just rides. Just had that discussion with a British dad about his kid.

I have some selling to do to Daniel as these tires are each 160g heavier than Friday tires and complete wheels about 270g heavier each (yep - adding a pound). As he's never done MTB or XCross - these would be his biggest racing tires ever and I figure he can ride right over any bikes in front of him.

Both are new, both are 25mm.
Left is 350g right is 270g (with air), Fridays are 24mm 190g - not shown.

Found the Dugasts on eBay "used" - never glued and got a good deal. Was waiting for the ride to use them.


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Old 02-24-15, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Alleycatdad View Post
The kids wanna drive down to Chico to see the crit on Sunday. Any tips for parking/spectating?

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Eh, based on last year, no real tips needed. Park where you can and where it is legal. The "crowd" wasn't really that big last year, so spectating should be pretty simple. It only got a bit crowded at the finish during the finish.
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Old 02-24-15, 01:17 PM
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Full fields for 3/4 and 4/5 now.
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was talking to my buddy about how it could be 39-40F for those TTing at 8am on sunday--thinking about how cold it might be.

then i realized it would be 40, 41 degrees warmer than it was when i walked my kid to school at 8am today. should be nice!
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Full fields for 3/4 and 4/5 now.
have a great race, aaronmcd!
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Luckily I've been riding outside at 6 am getting used to the weather. Still, I'll need knee warmers.
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Originally Posted by Doge View Post
As I've admitted this really is all about me - my kid just rides. Just had that discussion with a British dad about his kid.

I have some selling to do to Daniel as these tires are each 160g heavier than Friday tires and complete wheels about 270g heavier each (yep - adding a pound). As he's never done MTB or XCross - these would be his biggest racing tires ever and I figure he can ride right over any bikes in front of him.

Both are new, both are 25mm.
Left is 350g right is 270g (with air), Fridays are 24mm 190g - not shown.

Found the Dugasts on eBay "used" - never glued and got a good deal. Was waiting for the ride to use them.
Did a quick survey of the team. Most are running conti gp4ks (in the P12 race) and ran conti gp4ks in the past while winning the road race and stage race (in the 3's).
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Originally Posted by tetonrider View Post
most importantly, @hack -- any good spots to eat that one might otherwise miss?

my buddy is excited for all chipotle all the time (we live in an area with pretty much no chains), but i'd rather have good local food. any tips are appreciated.
Just saw this, worth a click:
2015 Chico Stage Race- Racer's Info - 2015 Chico Stage Race
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Because I'm bored as heck right now....checked BikeReg for Chico. P12 is now up to 168 riders, including a full Airgas team. Not sure where they're going to cap this thing, but next year should get a Cat2 field.
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Because I'm bored as heck right now....checked BikeReg for Chico. P12 is now up to 168 riders, including a full Airgas team. Not sure where they're going to cap this thing, but next year should get a Cat2 field.
One east coast member is staying out here. He's going to terrorize Johnnycake. At least he's going to terrorize me.

Keep an eye on Cal Giant, they have two guys from out my way who could give you guys trouble.
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One east coast member is staying out here. He's going to terrorize Johnnycake. At least he's going to terrorize me.

Keep an eye on Cal Giant, they have two guys from out my way who could give you guys trouble.
Yeah...looks like they only have 8 of their allowed 9 (max per team) in the race ... for now. 168 guys on a 6 turn 1km course. Will be fun to watch. Cal Giant's Wolfe (??) does well. Their other east coaster came in 2nd in one of the local crits a couple weeks back. Solid team and rider.
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If they had a 2 field I would come down next year for sure, assuming I'm still a 2 then that is.
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Yeah...looks like they only have 8 of their allowed 9 (max per team) in the race ... for now. 168 guys on a 6 turn 1km course. Will be fun to watch. Cal Giant's Wolfe (??) does well. Their other east coaster came in 2nd in one of the local crits a couple weeks back. Solid team and rider.
He won the pro field at my club's Tour of the Hilltowns.
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I may be heading out to the Sacramento area for the last weekend in in April, and into the following week. Wente may be an option, depends on flights. Rides, definitely.
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River Ride (M, T, Th) and the Folsom Bike Race Ride (Weds) should be live by then. Always great rides.
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If they had a 2 field I would come down next year for sure, assuming I'm still a 2 then that is.
I bet they will.

theres 198 registered for the 1/2's field now! it's gonna be crazy, and awesome.
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I may be heading out to the Sacramento area for the last weekend in in April, and into the following week. Wente may be an option, depends on flights. Rides, definitely.
assuming you mean the wente crit, it would sadden me if that was all you got to race out here.. it's not terrible but pretty low key.
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