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EventServices 03-20-05 10:53 AM

How do you explain this sport to friends/family/coworkers?
 
Like all Roadies, we are such devoted fans of cycling that we want to share it with everyone we meet and educate everyone who asks about it. We want to explain why we have adapted our life around a niche sport that no one understands.

My girlfriend didn’t appreciate the sport. At her first bike race, she turned to me with eyes of stone and said, “To be honest with you, it looked like a bunch of guys riding around in circles for a couple of hours. I was bored out of my mind.”

I knew exactly what she meant. At first glance, that's what a bike race looks like. It’s fast and it looks very dangerous, but without some sort of commentary, she would never feel the same hook that we've all felt.

It’s a sport that’s full of jargon and nuance. Very tough to explain.
So my question is this:

How do YOU explain it?
And how do you keep their attention?
Is there a single source that covers it all?
A book you regularly recommend?
Is there a magazine article that spells it out adequately?
OR do you just tell them to watch Breaking Away?

boyze 03-20-05 11:15 AM

I don't try to explain it because unless one has actually done it then they couldn't possiby appreciate the nuances. As far as watching a bike race, well I rank it right up there with watching golf, baseball, tennis, bocce, marathon running, chess, cricket, paint dry, grass grow............. :D

2manybikes 03-20-05 11:43 AM


Originally Posted by EventServices
Like all Roadies, we are such devoted fans of cycling that we want to share it with everyone we meet and educate everyone who asks about it. We want to explain why we have adapted our life around a niche sport that no one understands.

My girlfriend didn’t appreciate the sport. At her first bike race, she turned to me with eyes of stone and said, “To be honest with you, it looked like a bunch of guys riding around in circles for a couple of hours. I was bored out of my mind.”

I knew exactly what she meant. At first glance, that's what a bike race looks like. It’s fast and it looks very dangerous, but without some sort of commentary, she would never feel the same hook that we've all felt.

It’s a sport that’s full of jargon and nuance. Very tough to explain.
So my question is this:

How do YOU explain it?
And how do you keep their attention?
Is there a single source that covers it all?
A book you regularly recommend?
Is there a magazine article that spells it out adequately?
OR do you just tell them to watch Breaking Away?

If you have trouble keeping their attention, change the subject. Some people just don't want to know.
The best result I know of is to invite them on a ride on a perfect day. If that does not do it for them, don't try to explain it.
Or........
If your audience is male, start with the subject of spandex and females on bikes. ;)

Voodoo76 03-20-05 11:43 AM

I try to give a breif explanation of; 1. What is involved in positioning, 2. How the draft plays into tactics, 3. How riders with different strengths will approach a race very differently. If they are still interested then a breif explanation of Team Tactics is also helpfull. Throw in a few NASCAR references, (I see similarities in draft dynamics, esp if it is a restrictor plate race), and you are all set.

R600DuraAce 03-20-05 11:49 AM

I don't. All they know is that I commute to get some training miles. Fully dressed in my team kit. They know that is not something they could do out of the blue. And my sister thought that if I keep on training and racing I could ride the Tour. I didn't bother to explain anything to her. :) They all wonder why and how I have 23" quads and weight only 130 lb. :)

For your girl friend, have her standing close to the finish line in an upper cat race. She would feel the draft of the pack as they fly pass her. If that's not enough, have her witness the chaos during a field sprint and to witness a crash. Riders and bikes flying every where.

Csson 03-20-05 12:45 PM


Originally Posted by EventServices
A book you regularly recommend?

No, but if I would it would be The Rider. It almost made me climb Mont Aigoual a few years back (if only I had had more time when I was in the area).

I have had the "Why don't you ride Tour de France?"-comment as well... I don't know what to say to that.

/Csson

collegeskier 03-20-05 02:18 PM

I think the best thing to explain is the sprint finish in last years TDF with Armstrong, Kloden, Basso, Ullrich, and Landis. I guess depending on who you are explaining it too. But I thought that was really interesting not only the actual action but also story and the tatics. I mean when it comes down to it cycling has everything that most other sports have.

The right place to start might be what sport do you like and why. If they like college basketball for the upsets and the Cynderilla teams then you have got Vockler. If like sports for strategy then you have got strategy all over the place, you just have to understand it. If you like great feets get on a bike and climb a mountain, or try to cruise along at 25 mph for a hour, then watch and realize what they are doing is really impressive. If you just like action and hitting well group sprints and track racing and the occasional crash. It has got it all. Of course my brother says unlike NASCAR you feel bad when someone crashes since you know it hurts

Although this is all coming from someone who likes to watch curling.

rich007 03-20-05 05:10 PM


Originally Posted by EventServices
And how do you keep [get] their attention?

Just to describe to uninterested folks how hard it is to do the Tour...

Even though running consecutive marathon is probably harder (purely physiologically), I often like to compare the Tour de France to running consecutive marathons over a period of three weeks with two days off... That usually gets the attention of even a someone who is a complete cycling ignoramus... ;)

hoodlum 03-21-05 07:39 AM

I have some framed Tour and Giro pics up in my office and at least once per week some asks me, "Are you going to be in the Tour de France?" It is amazing how little of a grasp some people have on this sport.

SoonerBent 03-21-05 08:52 AM

Don't bother. If you have to explain it their not going to get it anyway.

SS

kokodeselavy 03-21-05 12:57 PM

As a female cycle racing fan, here are my thoughts:

I know Bob Roll is an acquired taste, but his 2004 Tour de France book is a good general introduction and pretty digestible. I love his other books, too, but maybe not as a first course.

The Rider, mentioned by a previous poster, is one of my favorite books, and I would recommend it too...

When I was first learning about racing I found the live reports from cyclingnews.com to be very instructive about the color, culture, and strategy of racing from start to finish. (Velonews.com has live reports, too, but without the Aussie cheek.) What you see on TV is so truncated. Maybe pick an exciting stage that's still online and let her see how it unfolds.

Also, one aspect that can be compelling is the landscape of the course...watching the Grand Tours is like touring the countries...with the Giro coming up in May, you have the perfect opportunity to point this out. Show her the pictures of Milan-Sanremo on cyclingnews, some of them are breathtaking.

And, lets face it, most pro racers are exceedingly fit young men and they just look so happy on the top step of the podium. I mean, Petacchi, Boonen, Voeckler, even Cipo--what's not to like?

Koko.

Blackberry 03-21-05 05:57 PM

I tell ya what works for me. I just put OLN on TV on Sunday afternoon at 5:00 pm. Very shortly thereafter my wife runs screaming from the room.

mnutini 03-21-05 06:44 PM


Originally Posted by Blackberry
I tell ya what works for me. I just put OLN on TV on Sunday afternoon at 5:00 pm. Very shortly thereafter my wife runs screaming from the room.

OLN's coverage almost has me running, screaming from the room. Just say "pushing the pedals in anger" one more time.

Blackberry 03-21-05 07:57 PM


Originally Posted by mnutini
OLN's coverage almost has me running, screaming from the room. Just say "pushing the pedals in anger" one more time.

Just wait til the Tour Day France.

Mojo GoGo 03-22-05 12:03 PM


Originally Posted by mnutini
OLN's coverage almost has me running, screaming from the room. Just say "pushing the pedals in anger" one more time.

I'm part of a small group of cyclists where I work who have brought in their beater bikes and trainers so we can group ride over lunch. Our favorite line is from last years (I believe) TDF "... Jan Ulrich, a beast of a man".

As for how I explain biking (as I don't race), I tell people it's my mental health time and that I like to ride around in brightly colored underware :D

khuon 03-22-05 12:36 PM

I have tried to explain cycling and it's very hard to do. There are a few solid rules but generally bike races are not as constricted by artificial rules as those found in say ball or court sports. The things that get done are usually done not to satisfy some rule of play but to satisfy some laws of nature. To understand what happens in a bike race is to understand more of the physical and pyschological world as it relates to cycling. To some people, especially cyclists, understanding what happens in a race is intuitive but to others, it becomes a study in the sciences... something few people are prepared to do when all they want is some visual entertainment. Cycling is a sport of doing and unless someone has ridden a bike, it's very hard for them to get in touch with the sport of bicycle racing. They don't have to have raced but there's just something enlightening about riding a bike that goes a long way to help lay the groundwork for understanding the whats, ifs, whens and whys of bicycle races.

alanbikehouston 03-22-05 12:58 PM

The most popular sport on TV is "Pro Wrestling". Perhaps there is merit in failing to be popular.

gcasillo 03-22-05 02:24 PM


Originally Posted by alanbikehouston
The most popular sport on TV is "Pro Wrestling". Perhaps there is merit in failing to be popular.

I'd rather be popular. Gonna have to work on my smackdown. :)

I find that despite it's simple appearance, cycling is flush with aspects that can attract a greater range of folks than many other sports.

In competitive cycling, there different styles like road, mountain, track, and cross. There's climbers, sprinters, rollers, randonneurs, and others.

There's cycling for fitness. What other activity can a lazy, overweight guy take up that allows him to keep his HR up to 150 or so for 2-4 hours, take in some scenery, and clear his mind?

There's commuting which connects you to better fitness, relieves you of expenses for parking and gas, lessens your impact on the environment, and clears your mind.

There's touring which does the same as commuting but at greater distances, improves your fitness, and helps to take in some additional scenery.

Personally, I think that if you can't find something in cycling that you find compelling, competitive or otherwise, then you won't find it anywhere else you look. All it takes is a bike and a willingness to try new things.

Try a sprint. Can't dial it up to 40mph? Now watch Petacchi and Boonen duke it out and appreciate what a sprinter can really do.

Climb that little hill over there. How many times did you stop? Now watch Armstrong, Heras, Basso, and Ullrich level a mountain at 15mph that you'd stop on ten times as much as that little hill.

Ride out from home far enough to get lost and have to find your way back. Know what home means when you have to decide to take a turn or continue going straight (I love this feeling).

Cycling beats all. It can be meditative and solitary or collective and social. High intensity or lilting. In the moment or over the horizon. Against the clock or without a second hand.

To conclude, my suggestion is to start a newbie with a bike and casual ride. Interest in more esoteric facets of cycling (e.g. Armstrong/Simeoni feud) will follow given enough time.

rich007 03-22-05 04:35 PM

^^^^^ Well said, really well, gcasillo... ;)

EventServices 03-22-05 06:15 PM

Yes, but given one chance to hook someone into the sport (as opposed to the gutter), what do you have them read?

How do you explain the bonk?
The criterium?
The paceline?
The desire to spend 5 hours driving to a race that lasts 90 minutes and you have absolutely NO chance of winning?

Is there one source that wraps it up in one read?

I'm hearing a collective "no", and I'm noting that in many cases, we've given up trying.

I'm not being critical. On the contrary, I'm going to endeavor to remedy the problem.

Thanks for your responses. Keep 'em coming.
Stay tuned.

khuon 03-22-05 06:44 PM

I don't think reading about cycling is going to get them hooked.

my58vw 03-22-05 07:11 PM

I agree all the way with ^^^^

The only way to understand is to go to a race and see what it is like. Someone who likes auto racing can like bicycle racing much easier...

EventServices 03-23-05 08:14 AM

So 58, let me ask you to clarify: you're saying that someone can pick up all those things simply by watching a race?

Laggard 03-23-05 08:38 AM

I had no one to explain racing to me. I just picked it up as I went along.

But it appealed to me right away and I was willing to take the time to learn. If someone has no immediate interest in the sport it's pretty tough to get them to care. For instance, I detest baseball. You can explain to me the intricasies of the game until the cows come home but I'm still not going to like it.

gcasillo 03-23-05 09:43 AM

If you're talking strictly racing/competitive cycling and getting someone interested in that, then you're dealing with the same problems other sports have. If people don't know the nuances of the sport, it'd better look fun. The only way I think you can make bike racing look fun to the average Joe is track cycling. Phil Liggett has said so himself. It's condensed and high-speed with a stadium atmosphere. Much more conducive to a TV type audience than road racing. Cyclocross could fare okay. Mountain might be too spread out and its technical aspects are probably going to be lost on most folks.

I think bike racing can take off in the States if more velodromes are built. Get kids to a velodrome and bike racing could blossom. Like Laggard said, and I'm the same, bike racing is something some folks like right away, but it takes time to really understand it.

EventServices, you pitching a TV show or book deal? These are the questions I'd ask if I were doing so.


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