Strava App..... Meh
05-08-14, 06:24 PM
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wow I've never seen the playback in action. Just "watched" the last race, it was interesting. The crash at the bell (suddenly riders stopped, others were going much slower), the sprint, a break that got caught, etc. Really cool. The ability to pause etc is nice. It includes, for many riders, the warm up, so it's interesting to see that while I was pinning my number the others were rolling around warming up etc.
05-08-14, 07:35 PM
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I didn't see it either so I googled it.
First you go here:
https://labs.strava.com/flyby/
Then you put in the URL for the Strava Activity you want to view. For me, my example was:
Bike Ride Profile | 4/19/2014 Mystic Velo Crit, melted in the wind. near Charlestown | Times and Records | Strava
Finally you check off who you want to view in the playback from the list of riders. The green C is Correlation - the higher the number the more probable they actually rode with you. The purple S means they rode the same roads but not necessarily at the same time, so in a crit they probably did a different race if their C is low. The red D is how far they rode, if their number is really wacky then either they rode a ton or they got shelled.
I selected everyone that was over 50% for C. You can pause and select more or deselect the ones that are obviously not racing or whatever. For me there was a guy Don at 70% C but he was watching the race from the side so I deselected him.
Finally hit the play button. It's fun. Think of significant events in the race - breaks, chases, primes, final sprint, crashes, and you'll see them sort of played out. In my event there was a slow-mo crash just before the bell and you can see how the field just explodes after that, due to some people slowing hard, a few Strava riders falling, and the field itself just splintering under pressure. It really strings out for the finish.
First you go here:
https://labs.strava.com/flyby/
Then you put in the URL for the Strava Activity you want to view. For me, my example was:
Bike Ride Profile | 4/19/2014 Mystic Velo Crit, melted in the wind. near Charlestown | Times and Records | Strava
Finally you check off who you want to view in the playback from the list of riders. The green C is Correlation - the higher the number the more probable they actually rode with you. The purple S means they rode the same roads but not necessarily at the same time, so in a crit they probably did a different race if their C is low. The red D is how far they rode, if their number is really wacky then either they rode a ton or they got shelled.
I selected everyone that was over 50% for C. You can pause and select more or deselect the ones that are obviously not racing or whatever. For me there was a guy Don at 70% C but he was watching the race from the side so I deselected him.
Finally hit the play button. It's fun. Think of significant events in the race - breaks, chases, primes, final sprint, crashes, and you'll see them sort of played out. In my event there was a slow-mo crash just before the bell and you can see how the field just explodes after that, due to some people slowing hard, a few Strava riders falling, and the field itself just splintering under pressure. It really strings out for the finish.
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05-08-14, 08:34 PM
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A segment on this ride Bike Ride Profile | Evening Ride near Alpharetta | Times and Records | Strava, the segment is called "My Evening Commute". I wanted to see if you could hack past the "private" - in my defense you did say "any KOM anywhere".
If I look at the power I had to put out though, the ride was honest with no cheating. I did say anywhere in the world, could do the same if this was in Italy, you have to just be able to travel at the speed of light.
05-08-14, 08:37 PM
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05-08-14, 09:28 PM
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Done, I am now 1st on the leaderboard and have the com for Marconi to YMCA. In fairness to Strava, please post back here, so I can delete the ride and we can keep things honest.
If I look at the power I had to put out though, the ride was honest with no cheating. I did say anywhere in the world, could do the same if this was in Italy, you have to just be able to travel at the speed of light.
If I look at the power I had to put out though, the ride was honest with no cheating. I did say anywhere in the world, could do the same if this was in Italy, you have to just be able to travel at the speed of light.
It's sure enough there! A little weird though because the whole ride is duplicated but only one segment shows. You probalby should take it down before Strava notices or someone flags it.
05-09-14, 06:25 AM
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But I'm still KOM on my private commute! Just kidding, private segments don't count.
It's sure enough there! A little weird though because the whole ride is duplicated but only one segment shows. You probalby should take it down before Strava notices or someone flags it.
It's sure enough there! A little weird though because the whole ride is duplicated but only one segment shows. You probalby should take it down before Strava notices or someone flags it.
05-10-14, 05:15 PM
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Email from promoter of tomorrow's race:
Racers,
We are pleased to announce another fun addition to tomorrow’s Lucarelli & Castaldi CRCA Bear Mountain Classic (#bearmountainclassic): the STRAVA TIORATI KOM/QOM COMPETITION. The fastest men’s and women’s times on the Bear Mountain Classic Tiorati Climb will receive $250 each.
We will give everyone until Wednesday at noon to upload their files and then we’ll announce the winners. Can anyone beat the 8:01 KOM time set at the 2010 Bear Mountain Fall Classic?
Racers,
We are pleased to announce another fun addition to tomorrow’s Lucarelli & Castaldi CRCA Bear Mountain Classic (#bearmountainclassic): the STRAVA TIORATI KOM/QOM COMPETITION. The fastest men’s and women’s times on the Bear Mountain Classic Tiorati Climb will receive $250 each.
We will give everyone until Wednesday at noon to upload their files and then we’ll announce the winners. Can anyone beat the 8:01 KOM time set at the 2010 Bear Mountain Fall Classic?
05-10-14, 06:21 PM
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Email from promoter of tomorrow's race:
Racers,
We are pleased to announce another fun addition to tomorrow’s Lucarelli & Castaldi CRCA Bear Mountain Classic (#bearmountainclassic): the STRAVA TIORATI KOM/QOM COMPETITION. The fastest men’s and women’s times on the Bear Mountain Classic Tiorati Climb will receive $250 each.
We will give everyone until Wednesday at noon to upload their files and then we’ll announce the winners. Can anyone beat the 8:01 KOM time set at the 2010 Bear Mountain Fall Classic?
Racers,
We are pleased to announce another fun addition to tomorrow’s Lucarelli & Castaldi CRCA Bear Mountain Classic (#bearmountainclassic): the STRAVA TIORATI KOM/QOM COMPETITION. The fastest men’s and women’s times on the Bear Mountain Classic Tiorati Climb will receive $250 each.
We will give everyone until Wednesday at noon to upload their files and then we’ll announce the winners. Can anyone beat the 8:01 KOM time set at the 2010 Bear Mountain Fall Classic?
At the Belgian Waffle ride in San Diego area all finishers had to bring their Garmin/etc to a table where they had a bunch of computers. The rider or staff would connect the Garmin/etc in open view, the file would get downloaded off the device, the staff would verify that the rider didn't take any short cuts or that the speeds were reasonable, and then the rider would get their finishing medal etc.
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05-12-14, 08:54 AM
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I think ColnagoC40 has this one wrapped up
At the Belgian Waffle ride in San Diego area all finishers had to bring their Garmin/etc to a table where they had a bunch of computers. The rider or staff would connect the Garmin/etc in open view, the file would get downloaded off the device, the staff would verify that the rider didn't take any short cuts or that the speeds were reasonable, and then the rider would get their finishing medal etc.
At the Belgian Waffle ride in San Diego area all finishers had to bring their Garmin/etc to a table where they had a bunch of computers. The rider or staff would connect the Garmin/etc in open view, the file would get downloaded off the device, the staff would verify that the rider didn't take any short cuts or that the speeds were reasonable, and then the rider would get their finishing medal etc.
(True, but as said previously no point in cheating)Interesting to note the difference in power/heart-rate, by age group. At least that makes me feel a bit better. Will always miss those 400 watt years, they are gone.
What happened to the folks riding without computers? No timing chips?
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05-16-14, 09:46 AM
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Wait a minute. I race and I Strava. Using segments as benchmarks is as good as anything for training. Also, BS (before Strava ), a lot of climbs had no record, other than what was passed down by the village elders. Now at least we have some measure of the best times on climbs that have never featured a sanctioned hill climb.
Looking at KOM times in the context of power and pacing and wind direction is a blast and pretty insightful.
), a lot of climbs had no record, other than what was passed down by the village elders. Now at least we have some measure of the best times on climbs that have never featured a sanctioned hill climb. Looking at KOM times in the context of power and pacing and wind direction is a blast and pretty insightful.
05-16-14, 09:59 AM
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Wait a minute. I race and I Strava. Using segments as benchmarks is as good as anything for training. Also, BS (before Strava ), a lot of climbs had no record, other than what was passed down by the village elders. Now at least we have some measure of the best times on climbs that have never featured a sanctioned hill climb.
Looking at KOM times in the context of power and pacing and wind direction is a blast and pretty insightful.
), a lot of climbs had no record, other than what was passed down by the village elders. Now at least we have some measure of the best times on climbs that have never featured a sanctioned hill climb. Looking at KOM times in the context of power and pacing and wind direction is a blast and pretty insightful.
05-16-14, 10:00 AM
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Incorrect. Your whole premise is flawed. If you have a power meter and do a small portion of your structured training on the same hill, OK. But training by comparing yourself to others is a flawed method of training. So is focusing too much of your training time on doing the same kind of training.
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Incorrect. Your whole premise is flawed. If you have a power meter and do a small portion of your structured training on the same hill, OK. But training by comparing yourself to others is a flawed method of training. So is focusing too much of your training time on doing the same kind of training.
05-16-14, 10:09 AM
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I sometimes do intervals on strava segments (private or public) rather than timed intervals. I find it much more fun to shoot for a physical landmark instead of staring at the timer. It's not about comparing to others, it's about having a known interval mapped out on the road for you.
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Wait a minute. I race and I Strava. Using segments as benchmarks is as good as anything for training. Also, BS (before Strava ), a lot of climbs had no record, other than what was passed down by the village elders. Now at least we have some measure of the best times on climbs that have never featured a sanctioned hill climb.
Looking at KOM times in the context of power and pacing and wind direction is a blast and pretty insightful.
), a lot of climbs had no record, other than what was passed down by the village elders. Now at least we have some measure of the best times on climbs that have never featured a sanctioned hill climb. Looking at KOM times in the context of power and pacing and wind direction is a blast and pretty insightful.
Incorrect. Your whole premise is flawed. If you have a power meter and do a small portion of your structured training on the same hill, OK. But training by comparing yourself to others is a flawed method of training. So is focusing too much of your training time on doing the same kind of training.
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Incorrect. Your whole premise is flawed. If you have a power meter and do a small portion of your structured training on the same hill, OK. But training by comparing yourself to others is a flawed method of training. So is focusing too much of your training time on doing the same kind of training.
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05-16-14, 12:42 PM
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Which in a way it is in that it has it's own rules (none) and score is kept, but it's not REAL racing, know what I mean? It's not legit like a 4-corner crit, 95-mile Road Race, or an arrow-straight flat TT. Because those are all so similar and the only real races.
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