2014 TdF Thread?
07-21-14, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by cmh
Too much talk in the media about TJ killing it in the time trial and landing on the podium. I'm rooting for him for sure, but lets not jinx him with 3 hard mountain stages and the TT to get through!
07-21-14, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Creatre
he just can't tactically race worth a ****.
07-21-14, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Gramercy
Did you hear the announcer yesterday say that they were going 44mph on the flats? I think it may have been during the windy section with BMC up at the front. I wonder if there was a serious tailwind, because I think usually they don't really go above 32mph or so on the flats unless they are in the last few miles and chasing down the break.
I've been in numerous races and training rides on very long flat roads where we were doing 38-40mph and watching ppl explode from not being able to turn the cranks fast enough. And we're just a bunch of lowly cat1-2's. Droppage had nothing to do with gearing btw, only their lack of leg speed.
And gsteinb is correct, Phil and Paul exaggerate numbers constantly, but heck, they're just luring the noobs. No big deal I guess if we want growth.
07-21-14, 03:50 PM
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They actually averaged 44kph+ over the whole race. I'm betting on Phil just forgetting units.
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07-21-14, 03:51 PM
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If you want to see the speeds they were doing over various terrain Bike Ride Profile | Hectic day! near Tallard | Times and Records | Strava
07-21-14, 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Grumpy McTrumpy
They actually averaged 44kph+ over the whole race. I'm betting on Phil just forgetting units.
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07-21-14, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by gsteinb
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07-21-14, 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Grumpy McTrumpy
kudos to Occam
Way better than shaving with those stinking multi-blade razors that you have a hard time cleaning and spend too much money on.
07-22-14, 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Creatre
He seems very different, very confident this year, even just from interviews. He also appears to be way stronger than the guys in 2-6, he just can't tactically race worth a ****. I think he'll be okay as long as that sickness gets better not worse.
Comparing the two big American GC riders right now, TVG and Talansky, I would give TVG the advantage in terms of raw physical talent and Talansky the edge as a pure bike racer. There's a lot of talk about how Talansky owes so much to grit or determination, and I guess that true, but it kind of annoys me. I think it's strange how little attention is given in most of the mainstream analysis of the sport, in English anyway, to the importance of smart racing. I think Talansky's gift is at least as much that he's just a badass bike racer with very good instincts as it is willpower or determination or whatever. I'm not on board with mattm's Garmin "failboat" at all. Thank goodness there's a team that goes out there and races their damn bikes, and is getting behind a GC leader who does the same thing.
07-22-14, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Grumpy McTrumpy
I miss Johnny
At least they used the TdF as a topic.
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07-22-14, 03:37 PM
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The best part of the race is the contest between the two young French racers for the "small box" and white jersey.
07-22-14, 05:44 PM
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Whelp. Way to blow it TJ. At least we know he's clean. Otherwise he just sucks. But he always has a bad day, and his bad day = completely blow up day.
07-23-14, 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by mattm
lol we have those?!!
TVG and AT have "won" stage races against top competitors and placed very well at GT's. And they're still quite young.
Most countries would be ecstatic to have that.
Now if Phinney can recover and be our go-to Classics guy!
07-23-14, 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by rankin116
The day after a rest days always gets someone.
07-23-14, 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by gsteinb
isn't that tj guy from canada?
07-23-14, 08:56 AM
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I would really like to see Nibbles crack and make things interesting. ..don't think it's going to happen but it could.
